just plain tired of waiting

[Krumholtz]

I placed an order for a Ruger sr1911 back in February with my LGD, I live in Vermont so dealers are scarce (at least dealers I trust), and I have one that I have bought three other Rugers from. Anyway, I am still waiting, and due to his low volume he isn't a priority for the distributers.
My issue is, I have seen other dealers out of state, with 1911's on thir shelves (it would have cost me 45 bucks to have them shipped plus the extra 100 they were asking for the gun itself). I talked to a Ruger rep in my area who told me they are sending 1911's to their distributers and where they end up is based on sales numbers. In my mind this is CRAP, where is the customer service, all is see here is a system of corporate back scratching. It would seem to me that when you have an allocated status, the first priority should be to those INDIVIDUALS who have placed orders. I guess I just expect more from Ruger than this.

 

[HAWKEYE#28]

Have seen a couple of recent reports where Stalwarts have noted delivery of "fifty" and "80" SR1911s to FFL's. Just think(obviously) how many buyers could be made happy if the supplying Distributor(s) would split those large block deliveries by quarters, or smaller..........Think the issue is at the Distributor level(And I do not know how to fix it....... :roll:

 

[guidedfishing]

The SR1911 is a good pistol, and I know this may run contrary on the forum but before you over pay for a SR1911, take a look at the Springfield Armory Range Officer. For what folks are paying for some SR1911's you can pick up a Range Officer. You can always come back and pick up a SR1911 at some point. IMHO having both the RO is the better gun, but you won't go wrong with either. You can get an SR1911 if your willing to pay, the SR1911 should really should not cost more than 650 - 700 OTD.

Good luck

 

[revhigh]

The SR1911 is a good pistol, and I know this may run contrary on the forum but before you over pay for a SR1911, take a look at the Springfield Armory Range Officer. For what folks are paying for some SR1911's you can pick up a Range Officer. You can always come back and pick up a SR1911 at some point. IMHO having both the RO is the better gun, but you won't go wrong with either. You can get an SR1911 if your willing to pay, the SR1911 should really should not cost more than 650 - 700 OTD.

Good luck

Just what I've been saying all along.

At $625 +/- $25 OTD .... a great buy.

At $675 +/- $25 OTD ... there are a few other choices.

Over $700 - 800.... there are better choices.


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[revhigh]

IMHO having both the RO is the better gun

What did you pay ballpark for your RO if you don't mind saying?

I've seen them at about $725 occasionally in my area.

They are spectacularly accurate guns. I've been recommending them since they were released. They can be tough to get though.

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[guidedfishing]

If I remember correctly, it was $761 and change total including tax and background check fee OTD.

I should add, accurate is an understatement, the RO will shoot circles around my national match 45 that I was issued when shooting competitively.

shoot straight and shoot often.

 

[Krumholtz]

My LGD quoted me $615 +tax, after all said and done I figure I would be into it for around 650ish, Thanks for the posts, I was thinking of going the Springfield route too, and I have been more seriously considering my options since I've seen some of the sr's on the shelf for around $700. I guess I may just have to look a little harder at my options at this point. Thanks all for allowing me to vent a bit :(
in the mean time, signing off and still waiting it out. I hope to post before Christmas with a new addition to my gun cabinet!

 

[dakota1911]

Wow, I am glad to see the NM was issued. I bought my RO for $754 a few months ago. My first SR1911 was $599 in Sept. and the second $615 in October. In between the first and second SR1911 I bought a Colt Gold Cup National Match (GCNM) for $1100. When I first read that post above I was thinking the folk at IMBEL down in Brazil did a fantastic job on one RO. I have about a dozen GCNMs and GCTs from the 1970s to, well 2012 with the new round top GCNM. Any of them will outshoot the SA RO.

The SA RO is on par with the Ruger SR1911, except the Ruger does not have adjust. sights.

I am sort of amazed nobody has mentioned Taurus or RIA. I own those also and they are also cheap 1911s.

 

[guidedfishing]

Yeah they must of gotten that receiver right on that one before shipping it up to Genneso. Congratulations on your collection of 1911's. Full time job running ammo through all of them.

Good luck
shoot straight and shoot often

 

[aparoche]

Speaking of the Springfield Range Officer, I just saw that there is a new in box one for sale at over SigForum.com. It is $705 shipped and it looks like it comes with all the accessories...

http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/350601935/m/7100087503?r=7100087503#7100087503

 

[dlidster]

Have seen a couple of recent reports where Stalwarts have noted delivery of "fifty" and "80" SR1911s to FFL's. Just think(obviously) how many buyers could be made happy if the supplying Distributor(s) would split those large block deliveries by quarters, or smaller..........

I mentioned my close-to-home guy sold the 50, then received an additional 80. That was three weeks ago, so I don't know how many are left. He moves them, that's why he gets them. And, priced at $655, he's keeping buyers happy.

Anyone can share this happiness by visiting his place of business or his web site.

http://www.bwoutfitters.net/

 

[Pat-inCO]

I talked to a Ruger rep in my area who told me they are sending 1911's to their distributers and where they end up is based on sales numbers. In my mind this is CRAP, ......

Let's see, are you saying that Ruger should NOT try to make money?
Isn't that what keeps them in business?

They supply as many as they can to where the largest demand is.
If you would care to write them some software to track orders,
like yours, I'm sure they would appreciate it. :shock:

 

[Krumholtz]

It realy has never been about the money, I am talking customer service. I have several Rugers, I like their product and their attempt at the 1911, and I would like to own one. I contacted my LGD and put in a request. He quoted a price and I bit on it.
I personally find it a bit offensive that the company puts this gun on allocated status because they couldn't keep up with the orders (distributer orders) customers be dammed. You can't tell me this company is incapable of figureing out their own supply issues if they realy wanted to. If anyone has a problem with a gun they arn't going to the distributer to get it fixed, seems like Ruger can track that just fine. Seems like they could track a few dozen outstanding personal orders, especially when they are specifically contacted, like they have been in this case.
Tell you the truth, this is just how I see it, sorry if you don't agree, that's fine, as for me this is just how I judge a company, based on the service I get, and I can take it or I can leave it.

 

[ArmedinAZ]

Don't understand your point. Customer puts money down with a gun shop. Gun shop put order in to distributor. Distributor gets pistols from Ruger. Ruger doesn't sell directly to dealers or take orders from individuals. The problem is between the dealer and distributor. The system was in place long before the Ruger 1911. I think it stinks but it is what it is.

 

[Nakagawa]

The only SR1911 I have seen locally for sale is one that is used and on consignment and for sale for $775. It has been in the case for several months now. Go figure. Although I see a lot of people handling it, other than the drooling, everyone looks at the price tag and is put off immediately. Probably does not help that the gun is displayed next to a handful of Springfields. There was a RIA 1911 next to them and that disappeared very quickly.

The LGS does have a SR1911 as a rental gun, however. I asked about if they plan to get any more and multiple people behind the counter say that haven't heard much from their distributor on Ruger's whereabouts with the SR1911, always tells them that they are having trouble dishing them out fast enough to satisfy the demand.

I really want an SR1911 for my first 1911, but honestly I just do not see the price getting realistic for a while. I do not mind waiting, however when I do have the cash to buy one, I have a feeling it will still be ridiculously priced. I am looking at RIAs and springfields now. I still got time to wait, we shall see.

 

[revhigh]

The SA RO is on par with the Ruger SR1911, except the Ruger does not have adjust. sights.

Not the one's I've seen.

I've shot two, and they were both as good (accuracy) as my Gold Cups. Of course the GC's are FAR prettier.

They're leaps and bounds better than an sr1911. Feature-wise, accuracy-wise, and quality of build-wise.

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[Nakagawa]

I understand that the Springfield armory 1911s have an internal lock system within the main spring housing and I hear that they are simply taken out and replaced by another main spring housing if you want to get rid of it. However, is this a potential liability waiting to happen?

Is it similar in liability to taking out the magazine disconnect out of an SR9c, as in the end user removing a safety device on a handgun?

The Springfield RO does look pretty great, but I do not like any type of ILS system on my guns and would be worried to replace one if it would look bad.

 

[revhigh]

I understand that the Springfield armory 1911s have an internal lock system within the main spring housing and I hear that they are simply taken out and replaced by another main spring housing if you want to get rid of it. However, is this a potential liability waiting to happen?

Is it similar in liability to taking out the magazine disconnect out of an SR9c, as in the end user removing a safety device on a handgun?

The Springfield RO does look pretty great, but I do not like any type of ILS system on my guns and would be worried to replace one if it would look bad.

Correct !

I replaced my arched ILS MSH with a Smith and Alexander mag well flat MSH. Problem solved. The gun I did it on is range only, so I'm not worried about liability.

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[guidedfishing]

I never messed with the ILS on mine, no problems with several thousand rounds through this particular Springfield RO. I wouldn't be concerned about it, but if you just can't get past it its an easy change as pointed out. I did have the adjustment screw fall out on the rear sight I called Springfield and they were all over it, sent them the slide and the replaced the rear sight no questions asked it was back in my hands before the end of the week. I've had similar experience with Ruger on long guns. There customer service is why I limit my purchases to these manufactures when possible.

It certainly does out perform the NM .45s that were put together by government armorers for the army marksmanship units, at least the ones I was privileged to be issued. These were not the Colt NM pistols produced for the retail market. It was insane the amount of ammo they would give the marksmanship teams to practice with for our NM pistols and selectively picked out rack grade guns for the combat matches at Perry.

Truth be told I was shopping for a SR1911 and found one along with the Range Officer in the same shop. I had the good fortune to handle and break each one down side by side. The shop was basically asking the same price for each, when finished I handed the SR1911 to the guy behind me who was peeing his pants and I walked out with the RO. We were both happy. I later picked up the SR and have no complaints, great pistol but is no RO. You could not carry the RO unless you did something with the clunk of a target sight it has on it in my opinion, the SR sight is much better suited and easier to acquire if your so inclined.

Again this is all just my opinion and experience take it for what ever it may be, may be not worth to you.

Shot straight and shoot often.

 

[mattsbox99]

I'd love to know how a gun with an internal lock, firing pin safety, and made in Brazil with slave labor is "leaps and bounds" better than an American made gun with none of the phony BS.

Before you go on another idiotic tirade, yes, I'm aware there are several guns that are better ( & much more expensive) than the Ruger.

 

[revhigh]

I never messed with the ILS on mine, no problems with several thousand rounds through this particular Springfield RO.

when finished I handed the SR1911 to the guy behind me who was peeing his pants and I walked out with the RO.

I later picked up the SR and have no complaints, great pistol but is no RO.

Agreed ... the ILS has nothing to do with the feel of the trigger ... and I didn't change it out because I was worried about it ... I just like flat mainspring housings and long triggers, so it had to go.

You made the right choice with the Range Officer ... especially for even money ... there's no comparison to anybody who knows anything about 1911's. The Range Officer was never meant to be a carry 1911. It was meant to excel at the range ... which is exactly what it does.

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[HAWKEYE#28]

I'd love to know how a gun with an internal lock, firing pin safety, and made in Brazil with slave labor is "leaps and bounds" better than an American made gun with none of the phony BS.

Before you go on another idiotic tirade, yes, I'm aware there are several guns that are better ( & much more expensive) than the Ruger.

As the late Edward R Murrow noted........"And there You have it.." in one sentence.......... 8) :wink:

 

[Richbaker]

Don't understand your point. Customer puts money down with a gun shop. Gun shop put order in to distributor. Distributor gets pistols from Ruger. Ruger doesn't sell directly to dealers or take orders from individuals. The problem is between the dealer and distributor. The system was in place long before the Ruger 1911. I think it stinks but it is what it is.

This right here.... And, if you're not "A Friend of Bill", they probably won't sell direct to you, anyways. That's how it is, with most big manufacturing companies.

 

[rammerjammer]

Don't blame Ruger. Blame your dealer who doesn't hav the pull to get an SR1911 from their distributor. Plain and simple.

 

[Wulf]

I placed an order for a Ruger sr1911 back in February with my LGD, I live in Vermont so dealers are scarce (at least dealers I trust), and I have one that I have bought three other Rugers from. Anyway, I am still waiting, and due to his low volume he isn't a priority for the distributers.
My issue is, I have seen other dealers out of state, with 1911's on thir shelves (it would have cost me 45 bucks to have them shipped plus the extra 100 they were asking for the gun itself). I talked to a Ruger rep in my area who told me they are sending 1911's to their distributers and where they end up is based on sales numbers. In my mind this is CRAP, where is the customer service, all is see here is a system of corporate back scratching. It would seem to me that when you have an allocated status, the first priority should be to those INDIVIDUALS who have placed orders. I guess I just expect more from Ruger than this.

I suppose it depends on what part of Vermont you're in, but you might want to try Rody's Gun Shop in Newport, NH.