its a shame ..357

michael52

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picked this up from a gentleman that was quiet senile..i have no idea what he did to it...functions like new , bore bright and shiny........it would make a good truck/woods/hammer gun...dates 1969..these closeups make it look bad and it is but not as bad as they appear,,,,,,.hardly a mark on cylinder...comes out very easy so there is no rust inhibiting that.....what could i get for this.....should i sell i havent decided I dont own a 357 so ,,I did shoot it with no issues.....i my keep it,,,200.00/300.00??..thanks

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I imagine you are getting a lot of PM's ! Many will want it for a project gun. I'm not qualified to throw out a price for you. I'd also consider getting it re-finished and giving it another life.
 
i suppose but then i would have more in it than i could get out of it should i decide to sell.......yours the only response , still early in some parts....they sleep their lives away...LOL
 
Wow! Ruger QC is really going to the dogs! (Just joking.)

Seriously, it looks like maybe somebody left it in the bottom of a metal toolbox for a long time...probably laying on its left side from the looks of the barrel.

I'm no collector so I have no idea what value it would have nor whether cleaning it up and refinishing it would remove any collector value. Myself, I would never pay anywhere near $200 for it in its current condition.

If I had it and it shot well I would probably clean it up and re-blue it and then shoot it 'til it fell apart...

John
 
i paid 100.00 i figure parting it out would bring more than that.... maybe not..but couldnt pass on it for that got a frontier scout 62 and a 70 series colt combat nickle commander that i am having redone from the same gentleman,,,, they are both getting cerakoted
 
I just recently started to tinker on single actions. I suggest trying to refinish it yourself if you have that bug. I myself really like working on guns. I'm no smith but that hasn't stopped me yet.

Has it been converted? That may change the price too. Hopefully you gave or will give the guy a fair shake. The grips look nice from what we can see. Those are probably worth 40 bucks to the right person.
 
100 bucks. I agree with PriseDeFer. You took that and probably the others too.
 
roylt said:
I just recently started to tinker on single actions. I suggest trying to refinish it yourself if you have that bug. I myself really like working on guns. I'm no smith but that hasn't stopped me yet.

Has it been converted? That may change the price too. Hopefully you gave or will give the guy a fair shake. The grips look nice from what we can see. Those are probably worth 40 bucks to the right person.

has not been converted.....thanks

i will never get my money back out of the commander but it is a series 70 i will carry...i didnt steal it but it was a fair price
 
I had Bowen re-blue a real beater OMBH for, as I recall, $525. Plus what I paid for the beater, I have more in it than it is worth, but it sure looks nice!
 
Opps, forgot to mention that it also needed a new front sight and was missing the rear sight (replaced with Bowen target) so the actual price for the blue job was less than I stated.
 
Ya know, unless you specifically wanted to part it out, or otherwise sell it for a project, I would clean it up, keep it well wiped down with oil and just shoot it the way it is. Patina is now all the rage. 8)

WAYNO.
 
WAYNO said:
Ya know, unless you specifically wanted to part it out, or otherwise sell it for a project, I would clean it up, keep it well wiped down with oil and just shoot it the way it is. Patina is now all the rage. 8)

WAYNO.

Exactly what I was thinking!

I had one that looked similar to that ..... previous owner had it "stored" in a leather holster in a basement closet for about 25 years.
 
I would send it off to Ruger and have it redone it will come back looking like new and you will get the old parts back with it.
 
It's been my experience that Ruger's re-finish/re-blue, based on those I've had done are the best that you can get and more reasonably priced than any local smith for a "new gun level" blue job. To me a factory re-blue that makes the gun look like it was a restoration to new is preferred. I believe a separate specialized team does the work. They are polished on the factory specialized equipment using the factory techniques. The flat surfaces are always flat, original factory contours are maintained/restored, and all lettering is clear and undistorted by over buffing. Note: as for any re-blue done by anyone, serious deep rust pits can not always be completely removed.

All the Ruger guns I've seen or had re-finished by Ruger look as good but usually better than any new Rugers.

Some want a custom blue, shinier than new and/or custom polished and are willing to pay more for that. That's fine. But most local refinishes cost more, are over buffed, and don't look as good as a new Ruger. Some look worse than the worn gun to begin with, and those will make you cry. (It's not unlike trying to get a decent car re-paint job.) And if you send the gun out, you'll pay shipping both ways, and wait who knows how long. The success of the final result is in the eye and the wallet of the beholder.

So it all depends on what you want.

Now consider these facts to make an informed decision:

Current Ruger cost for a revolver re-finish is $130 plus $30 return shipping from their website here: http://www.ruger.com/service/serviceFees.html And it will be returned in from 11 to 14 days.

You can request that the safety retrofit conversion be done for free including the shipping to Ruger; just call Ruger and they will supply a pre paid shipping label and usually a box to send the gun to them, and return ship it back to you for free. Therefore, no $30 return shipping charge as shown above if you request only a refinish.

Yes they will refinish the alum alloy grip frames and other alloy parts. It will not be dyed black and anodized as originally, it will be powder coated (a superior baked on finish in my opinion) like the current new Rugers.

Yes, they will convert your Ruger, whether you request it or not (no changes or machining are done to the revolver itself, only parts are replaced.)

Yes, your old parts are returned, with the exception of any specific part (not the entire gun) that is worn beyond a safe limit.

Yes, you can remove all interior parts and keep them before sending.

Yes, the gun will usually (with few exceptions) be stamped with an R on the bottom of the frame, under the trigger guard which must be removed to view the R.

Yes, the retrofit safety parts can easily be removed and the old parts replaced in the gun.

Yes, the safety retrofit will still index the chambers for loading; it is different than the New Model transfer bar parts. You still have to cock the hammer to half cock which is what indexes the chambers to the ejector rod and loading chute.

What do I do?
For old models, I always request the safety retrofit and ask for a refinish/re-blue as well. I remove and keep the original action parts and grips. I paid a total of $130. Ruger service fees: http://www.ruger.com/service/serviceFees.html

Here's the last Ruger I had done at the factory. (I paid shipping for this Hawkeye because there is no Ruger factory safety retrofit kit for it.) I replaced the powder coated alum alloy grip frame with a steel GF polished bright:
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People will never learn. Never ever put oil on a gun, it will rust it right away. The proper way to protect a firearm is to run it under the cold water tap and store in a sheep skin case.
That said, I have seen and re blued guns that were in a lot worse shape than yours.
Now if your only concern is dollars,you rarely can come out by reselling a gun that you bought,refinished, and put up for sale unless you can do the work yourself.
If done by a pro,that one will be very nice and better by far than any new gun you can buy today.
 
Chuck 100 yd said:
People will never learn. Never ever put oil on a gun, it will rust it right away. The proper way to protect a firearm is to run it under the cold water tap and store in a sheep skin case.
That said, I have seen and re blued guns that were in a lot worse shape than yours.
Now if your only concern is dollars,you rarely can come out by reselling a gun that you bought,refinished, and put up for sale unless you can do the work yourself.
If done by a pro,that one will be very nice and better by far than any new gun you can buy today.

Michael can't lose with a Ruger refinish; $100 for the gun plus $130, he'll only have $230 in the gun and it'll look like new!. He can fix the original hammer sides by sanding it in one direction, up and down over 400 grit paper on a very flat surface like a window pane or piece of marble, etc., to restore it to the original polished-in-the-white finish.

Chuck, tell us more about the "never put oil on a gun rusting it right away" wetting it with cold water and keeping it in a sheep skin case, concepts.
 
Hondo , tongue in cheek on the no oil concept of course. I have seen many that look like they have been maintained that way though.

My uncle used to say that when he bought a box of .30-30 shells he was buying 20 Deer. His rifle looked like it had never seen a drop of oil since it left the factory.

The last time I shipped a revolver back to Ruger (for non warranty work) it cost me
$ 107.00 for the UPS next day air freight. That charge would need to be considered into the cost of having one redone for resale. Also, Ruger will do the conversion while it is there as you know.
 
Chuck 100 yd said:
Hondo , tongue in cheek on the no oil concept of course. I have seen many that look like they have been maintained that way though.

My uncle used to say that when he bought a box of .30-30 shells he was buying 20 Deer. His rifle looked like it had never seen a drop of oil since it left the factory.

The last time I shipped a revolver back to Ruger (for non warranty work) it cost me
$ 107.00 for the UPS next day air freight. That charge would need to be considered into the cost of having one redone for resale. Also, Ruger will do the conversion while it is there as you know.

LOL, ok I get it.

Yes, for non warranty work, one must pay to ship the gun to Ruger and $30 return shipping.

But I think you misunderstand, the OP is not a dealer sending the gun back for the conversion for resale. An individual does not pay for shipping to or from Ruger when a gun is sent back and the conversion is requested. The refinish is requested only in addition to the conversion. Why not REQUEST the conversion and get the free shipping when Ruger is going to convert it anyway? Then Ruger will send a free pre paid shipping label via e-mail. That way one only pays the $130 for the re-finish and not for the shipping in either direction.

And just FYI one should always insist on the free shipping label when they are sending back for warranty work. I've never paid for shipping back to the factory for warranty work. If the factory rep balks, call back and talk to a different rep!
 
That is smart , Send it in for the conversion and have it refinished while it is there.
Unconvert it when it comes home. Would you remove the old Style parts or trust Ruger to return them?
 
I didn't used to and always got them back. But now I do just for insurance.

Although Ruger used to put the original parts in a sealed plastic bag under the flap in the old Ruger yellow return shipping box. I believe more parts got thrown out with the box than Ruger didn't return. They only discard parts that are unsafe in their assessment, if they were to be re-used.
 
i am about 30 minutes from the Ruger factory in Mayodan NC..i called and they are gonna send me a box and shipping label....so off to get a facelift :D

can someone point me in the direction to get grips for it

thanks
 
talked to a lady at ruger and after all is said and done i would have more in it than i would like....ship on my dime second day air to AZ... i cant ship ground since i am not FFL....

that aint cheap unless you are FFL....then the 30.00 to ship it back to me plus the refinish and any parts they cant repair..

the rear site to me looks that way...i am gonna give it some thought though...

i am gonna call back monday and talk to someone else as in another post recommended...mine does not have the conversion so they should pay to have it shipped to them....correct?

this FAQ on ruger website

What will it cost to have the conversion kit installed in my Ruger 'old model' single-action revolver?
Ruger installs the conversion kit free of charge and pays for the shipping charge to return your gun to you. You need only pay to ship the gun to the factory.
 
Michael,

Dang, I see that they have changed their policy! That's too bad.

However, when I ship a gun somewhere, I take it all packaged and addressed to my local FFL and pay them to ship it, to get around the 2nd day air requirement. Usually about $25 to $30. You could ship to Ruger that way.

Just ask for the conversion. Then once you receive the notice from Ruger that your gun was received at the factory, call and ask them to re-finish it too and they should pay shipping back to you since they converted it. That would still only cost you $30 to get it to Ruger and $130 to re-finish.

What prices did she quote you?
 
I shipped my Single-Six back because the front sight was crooked. The sign at my FFL said:

"Handgun Shipping: Cost of materials + $5."

The FFL put it in a cheap flat rate box and charged me $5. It was only $12 total to send it back to Ruger. So it can be done cheaply if nobody's trying to charge you a bunch of cash for an exclusive service.
 
The one and only time I shipped to Ruger the lady charged me for a shipping label. So I got fast shipping at only $30 bucks if I remember right.
 
one of thos things that you really canot put a price on it till you get "into it" how much "handwork" needs to be done, and if the barrel needs to be replaced, ,yes it laid on its left side in or on something "wet", bottom line to me from what I can see in the picks the sight and barrel should be replaced, and find out how bad the inner parts may be ( you send it back to the factory, they WILL update and replace the lock work) we have done some guns worse than this one, they were in the grand River after being stolen form a local shop , recovered 6 weeks later......the entire guns looked like your barrel on the left side....................for $100 you did good,yes a great "project" gun, and unless you remove all the rust, pitting, etc ,and will LOSE the rollmarks on the barrel, thats why I said best bet would be to replace the barrel...........
I refuse to accept any gun that when the job is done , and the refinish is over "pitting" that is NOT a sign of a good ,nor proper restoration..................
I do not think your gun is beyond restoration, and at a reasonable, fair, price..........
 
michael52,

If you do want the barrel replaced and keep the gun original looking, you'll need to find one and send along with the gun if you send to Ruger for refinishing. They can only replace the barrel with one from inventory which will be a new model with warning on the bottom.
 

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