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FastEd

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Navigate the entire WWII section

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Wyandot Jim

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SPBhawk said:
That's great, a P-51 in there as it should be.

Also an A-36 Apache which you very seldom see. :D :D

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Jeepnik

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Don't think they made all that many A-36's. Turned out a standard P-51 could do a credible job or close air support and ground attack. If I recall they had one on display at Lackland when I was there. Thought it was a P-51 till I read the name plate in front of it.

Yep, learn something every day. I was learning a bunch of stuff daily back then. Some of which I still remember.
 

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Jeepnik said:
Don't think they made all that many A-36's. Turned out a standard P-51 could do a credible job or close air support and ground attack. If I recall they had one on display at Lackland when I was there. Thought it was a P-51 till I read the name plate in front of it.

Yep, learn something every day. I was learning a bunch of stuff daily back then. Some of which I still remember.

Well The problem begins when you CAN NOT dive at a 70-90 angle. That is how you put bombs on target. Glide bombing doesn't hack it. So you need dive brakes to do that Think SBDs, Stuka, VALS.
P-51s were horrible at ground attack with the complex cooling system. Yes they did it and lost a lot of pilots. A lot of our Aces were killed doing itThe P-47 and all the other radial engine plans were great at ground attack. Think Corsair F4U

That is why they quit using the A-36 for dive bombing. The glycol cooling system just isn't made for that roll. A radial can have cylinders blown off and still get you home. The Navy did not use glycol cooled engines for a reason. :wink:
 

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Jeepnik said:
If I recall they had one on display at Lackland when I was there. Thought it was a P-51 till I read the name plate in front of it.
About when was this? Must have been before 1972 when I was there. They did have a VERY rare P-51H on display, though (and AFAIK, still do).

I've never heard of an A-36 or P-51A at Lackland. I just did a search at WarbirdRegistry and they didn't have any of the six or seven such survivors listed as ever having been on display at Lackland.

An airplane mystery! :shock:
 

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We were in Tucson this weekend and I saw an A-10 on final into Davis–Monthan.
 

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Snake45 said:
Jeepnik said:
If I recall they had one on display at Lackland when I was there. Thought it was a P-51 till I read the name plate in front of it.
About when was this? Must have been before 1972 when I was there. They did have a VERY rare P-51H on display, though (and AFAIK, still do).

I've never heard of an A-36 or P-51A at Lackland. I just did a search at WarbirdRegistry and they didn't have any of the six or seven such survivors listed as ever having been on display at Lackland.

An airplane mystery! :shock:

1971. I have some old photos taken when I was there. I'll try to dig them out and scan them. I should do it anyway.
 

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Jeepnik said:
Snake45 said:
Jeepnik said:
If I recall they had one on display at Lackland when I was there. Thought it was a P-51 till I read the name plate in front of it.
About when was this? Must have been before 1972 when I was there. They did have a VERY rare P-51H on display, though (and AFAIK, still do).

I've never heard of an A-36 or P-51A at Lackland. I just did a search at WarbirdRegistry and they didn't have any of the six or seven such survivors listed as ever having been on display at Lackland.

An airplane mystery! :shock:

1971. I have some old photos taken when I was there. I'll try to dig them out and scan them. I should do it anyway.
Please do! I'd love to see them! :D
 

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