If Ruger was designing a single action for CCW

drastic_quench

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What would you want it to be like? Let's set aside the SA as CCW debate. If it was being done, and they asked for your input, what would that revolver look like? Caliber, barrel length, ejector rod or no, birdshead grip or not?
 
I would like it to be like the shopkeeper only in a 45 colt I think that would be cool, oh ya on a mid size frame, or the same thing but in a 327 oh ya that would be it.
 
drastic_quench said:
What would you want it to be like? Let's set aside the SA as CCW debate. If it was being done, and they asked for your input, what would that revolver look like? Caliber, barrel length, ejector rod or no, birdshead grip or not?

I think that they could do away with the ejector rod, as by the time one ran out of ammo, he or the other guy would already be dead......and if not, then he would be shortly because reloading a SA revolver takes too long, except for of course, highly trained people and highly trained people probably would not opt for the SA in the first place.

Other than that, I would think a barrel 3" or shorter with bird head grips, in any suitable caliber for PD would do the job all right.

Me? I am gonna stick with the LC9s. It carries better and is a lot faster getting it started. 8)
 
3" 45 colt with a Bisley hammer and birds head grip with low profile novak sights
 
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I would like a black stainless .45 ACP/.45 Auto Rim flat top Blackhawk with a birds head grip. I would like a white dot Novak front sight and an all black Novak rear sight. The barrel should be just long enough that the ejector rod will knock the empties out.
 
Not sure how to improve on the "sheriff's model" style. Perhaps a Bisley style hammer.

With a 3" or 3.5" bbl, could have an ejector rod to at least partially extract cases.

With no ejector rod, perhaps a 2" or 2.5" bbl would be good.

My custom version of a sheriff's model:
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Mine is an ejectorless 2.5" Convertible Birdshead Stainless Vaquero with Super Blackhawk hammer. 45acp/colt.
 
I like my Birdshead 3.75" 45colt.(large frame)
I think an ejector rod is a must.
And the capability to handle full power loads when you travel through thick skulled jungles.
 
45, 44 or 41, a three inch barrel, Birdshead Grip, Super hammer and loaded to something a little more powerful than a 44 special. The 'swing-out cylinder' idea blows my mind. :D :D
 
Ruger, and Dave Clements, have already made it:




.44 Special, 240 gr. Remington semi-jacketed hollow points. Holster by Graveyard Jack Gunleather.

Bob Wright
 
Like another had already posted... it's on my hip. A Talo Birdshead New Vaquero in .45 ACP. It's stainless and has a 3.75" barrel. The ejector rod works fine. The only thing I might have suggested was cut down the cylinder and frame for .45 ACP only. However, that would be unreasonable from a business POV, IMHO, as this model can have a .45 Colt or .ACP cylinder.

It rides in a Tom Threepersons holster from Graveyard Jack; mostly open carried with some concealed carry using the same holster.
 
Maybe a 5 shot, 44 special, 3" barrel, Birdshead, hammer to be determined later but Bisley preferred.

Just a thought

Jeff
 
Ruger New Vaquero mid frame in 45 ACP/45 AR, 2-2 1/2" barrel, no ejector, with birdshead grip.

And extra quick change cylinders cut for ACP in full moon clips and carried pre-loaded. Cylinder swap speed re-loading is much faster than ejector unloading in even unpracticed hands. Moon clips keep rounds in pre-loaded extra cylinders from dropping during speed loads.
 
I'm gonna go against the tide a little bit.

I've carried, very extensively, a number of different SA's for my concealed carry option. I've tried conventional full size 4-5/8" models, Sheriff length models, and birds head models. There's not much difference in carryability between any of them, and I can carry any of them very effectively and comfortably.

They are all bulky enough that the 3/4" shorter barrels don't make much difference. And the birdshead grip doesn't change the carryability much either, but it does affect the shootability.

So the single change that makes the biggest difference to me is a de-horned grip frame. A nice rounding of the grip frame on any 4-5/8" or 3-3/4" flattop-sized revolver makes the biggest improvement to me.

And all this assumes a feller is using the correct holster.

WAYNO.
 
4 inch barrel, aluminum grip frame and ejector rod housing, dished out right recoil shield and dished out loading gate, bottom rear corner of grip cut off and instructions included for removing ejector rod housing.
 
Aluminum grip frame, scandium alloyed aluminum reduced size cylinder frame, 5 shot titanium cylinder, 4 5/8” stainless rifled tube inside an aluminum sleeve with a flash light mounting rail, rubber laser grips, a red dot sight on a see through mount, tritium night sights, and an aluminum loading lever and ram rod. The Ruger New Army!

Seriously, after an unfortunate trade my first Old Army completed a pair kept for protection by a retired gent while gold panning the desert streams of various states in the middle of the country. He figured rural sheriff deputies weren’t going to hassle an old geezer over muzzle loaders. That’s the most logical rational I’ve heard for a carrying a SA for protection, but what the heck, I’m sure quite a few plastic fantastic fans think carrying a DA revolver is absurd, and we don’t need to keep up with the SWAT team.
 
This ones been on my mind for quite a while. It's a usfa, but a new vaquero would come out about the same. Robar did the work on this one. Xs night sights, rib, robar coating etc. 6 rounds of 45acp with officers magazines as speed loaders wouldn't leave me feeling under gunned.





Kinda looks familiar to the one I'm finishing up for the wife. Hers is on a single six, light and handy to learn on and carry around the farm for critter control.

 
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Same way I've been doing it for 40 years, with the exception of cool weather when it goes under a coat. Typically if I'm carrying a SA revolver, it's because that's what I have on that day and I'm running into town for something.

I do like the addition of the XS sight on gun in the AH article; but I would prefer in on the shortest ramp possible to keep the weight down. I suppose if I was going to purpose-build one for CCW I might use 45 Cowboy Special brass, for slicker ejection, and an aluminum grip frame/ejector housing to keep the weight down.
 

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