Hunter scope mount options

[contender]

I have a Hunter model in 41 mag I'm tinkering with. It of course has the scope rings. But the UltraDot I have will not fit the rings, nor in-between the rings. The UltraDot came with a Weaver type set of rings, but those do not fit the Ruger scope ring cuts in the hunter, of course.
So, what are my options?
Is there a weaver base adaptor or Picitanny rail type to fit the Ruger ring cuts?

I can easily put the UltraDot on another gun, as I can also put a regular scope on my Hunter. I'm just exploring my options here.
Dern New Models,,, so confusing at times!

 

[Jimbo357mag]

Scope mount from Power Custom.
http://powercustom.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=53&products_id=744

 

[gmartinnc]

Burris makes Ruger adaptors. Thats what is on my Hunter along with their Signature Zee rings.
That one from Power Custom looks great!

 

[Bear Paw Jack]

http://www.jackweigand.com/scope.html

 

[Rumrunner]

I have used the Weigand on my Redhawk and it is a good one.

 

[Chuck 100 yd]

Wiegand makes quality stuff. I love the rail I have on my 6" GP.

 

[contender]

Thanks all,,,! I was thinking Weigand, but I didn't have time this morning to do an extensive search.
I'll look into the Power Custom too!

 

[Arokcrwlr]

I use the Weigand on my 41 Hunter - works great.

 

[gmartinnc]

What are the Weigand and the Power Custom mounts made out of, aluminum or steel?

 

[Arokcrwlr]

Aluminum. There has been discussion here and on the SA site that the Weigand does not hold up well on Hunters with a scope because there is no rear attachment point. However, I have had no issues with this setup and the small reflex sight that I use.

 

[contender]

I ordered a Weigand for mine today. We'll see how it does!

 

[tuner]

I hope the Weigand holds up well to the recoil of the .41 mag. I have a SBHH .44 Mag. that I purchased an Ultra Dot II for and of course it would not fit between the dovetails on the Ruger. Bought the Weigand it looked like a quality mount but found out that the roll pins that are used to index into the cutouts in the Ruger will not hold up to the recoil and will eventually bend. I was cautioned about this by another member of this forum and made sure that my mount was secure at all times; roll pins still bent and poi changed. My load was a 265 gr, cast bullet backed by 21.5 grains of 296, a little shy of max load but it is accurate as all get out. The past several days I have called Brownell's, Midway and Ruger, spent hours searching the internet to see if they had a mount/rings that I could use and no one had a solution to the mounting problem. I am told that Weigand will replace the roll pins with solid steel pins (why don't they use them in the first place) if I return the mount to them, but I am concerned that the stronger pins would start to batter the aluminum mount and eventually start displacing metal in the mount and possibly the rib of the barrel and screw things up. The solution would be a simple 30mm extension ring that fit a SBHH, but none of the above could find such an item and I have not been able to find one searching the internet. My current thinking is that I will buy the highest 30mm ring I can find that will fit a SBHH, cut it in half, and fabricate my own extension ring and have it welded back together, but that is a lot of work.

BTW, I did not intend to hijack your thread but I thought it was important for you to know the potential problems with the Weigand mount I and others have had. It may hold up in the .41 mag. but then who knows. I am open to any suggestions.

 

[contender]

Thanks!
I got mine mounted,, but haven't taken it out yet.
Keep us posted if your idea works!

 

[tuner]

Spent some more time on the internet searching for an appropriate extension ring for a SBHH and found that Leupold does make one but it looks like it is for the M77 rifle and do not know if it will fit the SBHH. I emailed Leupold this AM and asked if it would fit the SBHH and what ring heights it came in. When I get an answer I will post it here. This would greatly simplify the mounting process for me and be something for you and others to keep in your hip pocket if the Weigand mount does not stay put with the recoil of your .41 mag.

Waiting for their reply!

 

[DA_TriggR4Ruger]

I was considering a red dot for my Hunter...

 

[gmartinnc]

The Burris mounts are all steel, and by using the offset plastic inserts with the Signature Zee rings, a scope can be mounted very near it's optical center plus they will never leave a ring mark so lapping scope rings is history.
This setup is rock solid, and seems to be holding up fine on my SBH Hunter.

 

[DA_TriggR4Ruger]

Is it a .44?

 

[gmartinnc]

Is it a .44?

Yes but I will admit, I don't load it to the max.

 

[DA_TriggR4Ruger]

Seeing as the Weegen is aluminum, and individuals here have had issues, I would be more inclined to go with the Burris, as stated, all steel. I am running a .44 model. I have a red dot in mind..... Can you post a link to the Burris or part number?

 

[gmartinnc]

I've had these a couple of years and there seems to have been a change for the better.
I have part # 41099, and the pack they came in states they will fit a Redhawk.
Best I remember, I spoke with someone at Burris before ordering these, and got what they said would work, but none specifically state they will fit a SHB Hunter.
As you can see with the ones in the link, one base is shorter than the other, which will allow the rings to be changed without removing one of the bases. I am unable to do with the set I have.
http://www.burrisoptics.com/bases.html
If ordering these again today, I would call Burris first to be sure I got the set with one base that is shorter like the photo in the link, instead of the ones like I have.
I would feel better about these if they were one piece, but that isn't a option.
Most of the shooting I have done with these were with a 2.5 x 8 Leupold which is a much larger and heavier scope.
I have just recently switched to a 4x on the gun, but haven't had any problem with the mounting system regardless which scope was used. Here is a pic of the gun wearing the 2.5x8.

 

[tuner]

I got a response from Leupold today and here is what they had to say, " The Super Blackhawk hunter uses Ruger #1 rings. However, we unfortunately do not make an offset or extension ring for the #1 configuration in 30mm."

Another one bites the dust! Right now the option provided by gmartinnc in the post above looks like the best bet for mounting a 30mm scope where you need extra space not provided by the dove tail cutouts in the hunter rib.

 

[gmartinnc]

As you can see, the clearance between the rear mount and the frame is very close, and you may have to remove some metal from the mount or it will rest on the frame slightly, preventing full engagement of the barrel clamps.
The only reason I went in this direction was so I could use the Signature Zee rings, and if for some reason I have to remove them, I will go back with the factory rings and lap them as I used to do.
BTW, I noticed that MidwayUSA is now offering free shipping on these as well as the rings.

 

[tuner]

After not being able to find any offset 30mm mounts to fit my SBHH I purchased a set of the Burris mounts gmartinnc above used on his SBH as the Weigand mount just was not holding up to the recoil of the .44 mag. I ordered them on a Thursday from Midway and with free shipping they were on my door step the next Monday. I did have to remove about 15 thousands from the section that goes over the frame which I milled off. These mounts have a good “lug” that fits well in the barrel rib cutout and being all steel I expect they will hold up well. Took it to the range today and the first five shots were about 2.5 inches low and right. Made a sight correction and the next five shots at 25 yards cut a one inch group out of the X ring with four shots in one raged hole and the last shot just out of that group opening it up to one inch. My load was a 265 gr. (my alloy) Lyman cast GC bullet pushed by 21.5 gr. 296 which has shot exceptionally well in six different .44 mags. Time will tell if this mount will hold up but I expect it will.

Thanks gmartinnc for the lead on the Burris system.

 

[SHOOTER]

Very very Sharp!! I like it.

I use the Weigand on my 41 Hunter - works great.

 

[Rafsob]

My GP-100 hunting gun.

 

[SHOOTER]

Oooooooooh! What's that barrel length? Who made the mount??

 

[Rafsob]

Oooooooooh! What's that barrel length? Who made the mount??

I got this from Weigand. And I love this setup. Been in the field and on the range and it holds up very well!!

Barrel length is 6".