How much trigger slop is normal for a P94?

[Anonymous]

I knew it always had some, but never thought that much about it, until a few minutes ago, I haven't shot it in over a year. I got the P94 out of the safe and was messing around with it and noticed the trigger has a lot of side to side slop, and a little in the trigger pull especially in single action and less so in double action. It's a lot, I don't mean you can barely wiggle the trigger side to side, it moves quite a bit.

Maybe I forgot just how bad it was, and it doesn't seem to effect the dependability at all, but certainly hurts the trigger pull.

Can this be remedied at all, or is it just the way it is? It isn't my go to gun any more, but I'd still don't like that slop much.

 

[ArmedinAZ]

It's just how it's made. If you ever take it apart you'd see that Ruger was generous with the tolerances on the cast parts.

My P93 had the wobbly trigger and a soft creeping break but it shot pretty well.

 

[Anonymous]

It's just how it's made. If you ever take it apart you'd see that Ruger was generous with the tolerances on the cast parts.

My P93 had the wobbly trigger and a soft creeping break but it shot pretty well.

Yeah, it was probably always that way, I just never noticed how much slop it had. The gun was always in DA mode unless I was shooting it, and of course I didn't try to wiggle the trigger while shooting.

I guess it's no big deal, I mean it's insanely dependable, the only gun I own (not counting the SR's because I haven't had them long enough to compare) that has never malfunctioned in any way. Even my AK's have once or twice...but in fairness they've had many times over more rounds fired through them, but still that P94 is incredible as far as reliability is concerned.

 

[Mike J]

My P944 is the same way 89grand. I wouldn't worry about it. It shoots just fine.

 

[Anonymous]

I've had it a long time, probably since 1998 I'd guess. I don't know why I suddenly noticed how much slop it had.

I blame Rev, he's always mentioning their short comings, and maybe because of that, I was looking for it.

 

[Mike J]

I'll be honest with you 89grand my XD is pretty much what I would reach for if I found myself in a situation where I needed to use a handgun. That is mostly because that is what I carry & shoot the most but the P944 is a good gun & I would not feel lacking if it was what all I had with me. The XD is just a little bit trimmer & easier to hide. I'm actually wanting a SR40c now but I"m to broke to be buying guns so it will have to wait.

 

[Anonymous]

I hear you. My SR9 and SR9c have taken the place of the P94 as my go to gun/guns, but I wouldn't hesitate to use it on short notice.

Unlike my Star Model 30, or even my Star Firestar, I know for a fact the Ruger P94 will fire if the trigger is pulled, sloppy or not.

 

[Mike J]

I don't remember what model it was but I had a Star that was chambered for 9mm Largo years ago. It was a neat gun & I liked it. Thing is though at the time I was slam strung out on deer hunting & I traded it off for a compound bow with arrows & quick release. I didn't have much in it though. Think I paid about $120 for it at a gun show.

 

[Anonymous]

I like my Stars, but they aren't dead on reliable like the P94 is.

I bought the Model 30 M new from a co-worker with a FFL, about 20 years ago, and I've had the Firestar for about 15 years, which I did buy used from a friend. Both are 9mm's.

 

[revhigh]

I don't know why I suddenly noticed how much slop it had.

It's because you've now experienced better guns .... and you know what to look and feel for. I can't wait until you experience a good 1911 ... then you'll REALLY be sick ....

Once you've truly analyzed and understand the various aspects of trigger pull, and their absolute effects on your shooting .... you'll immediately measure every gun you pick up to the best trigger pull that you've experienced so far. It's THAT important ....


As I've said in the past ... if all you've ever known is Chevys .... how would you ever know about the vastly superior machining tolerances, and performance qualities of other higher end procucts ? And not ALL of those higher end products come with equivalent higher end price tags ... you just gotta know what to look for .... think two letters starting with a 'C'.

REV

 

[revhigh]

Ruger was generous with the tolerances on the cast parts.

I can't think of a kinder word to use for 'slop' than generous .... good one AIA.

Kinda like 'combat accurate' .... a really nice way to say that the gun can't shoot for sh .... well you get the idea ...

REV

 

[Anonymous]

I've been considering the RIA two tone tactical for my entry into 1911's. I'm a lefty so I need an ambi safety and that model is priced right and comes with one.

 

[208packinheat]

Rev, I lol when I read your posts. Are you on the payroll for Sig, CZ, any other gunmaker OTHER THAN Ruger???

If not, I think you have or are missing your calling. :wink: :wink: :wink:

 

[revhigh]

I've been considering the RIA two tone tactical for my entry into 1911's. I'm a lefty so I need an ambi safety and that model is priced right and comes with one.

I'm on the verge of the RIA 1911 9MM Tactical as well. I handled about 6 new RIA's at a local shop, and 5 out of the 6 guns I handled had excellent triggers out of the box. Triggers so good that I wouldn't even touch them in terms of a trigger job. The guy behind the counter said that RIA was working REALLY hard on their triggers now, and that sales have skyrocketed because of it. Even guys with lots of high(er)-end 1911's (like me) are noticing and buying these guns. The 9MM Tactical, which has some cosmetic doo-dads that I don't like (but will live with for now) is the one to buy because it has excellent sights compared to the bare bones GI model. I can always dump the junk I don't like.

Price was about $450 OTD.

You looking at a 9 or 45 89K ?

REV

 

[revhigh]

Rev, I lol when I read your posts. Are you on the payroll for Sig, CZ, any other gunmaker OTHER THAN Ruger???

If not, I think you have or are missing your calling. :wink: :wink: :wink:

Nah ... I just like to talk about good guns. Metal CZ's are the bargain sleeper in the semi-auto gun market, and as much as I respect Sigs for their excellent machining and stellar accuracy (I have a couple) ... I don't really care for them that much (I don't like the decocker) .... same for Glock (Don't like the triggers or the looks).

From what I understand, the current Ruger SR series guns aren't bad now that they got all the bugs worked out. My primary reason for not liking them is the grip ... it seems very slim and narrow to me. Guns like the LC9 I just plain have zero interest in. They're just little lightweight carry guns that you really don't shoot much. The only 'shootable auto' that Ruger has in their line right now is the SR's and I just plain don't care for them.

The Ruger 1911 looks nice, but I really don't need just another ho hum 45ACP 1911. In general ... the only reason I see for owning plastic guns is for carry. There's not an XD, Glock, M&P, or SR that will shoot better than my all metal CZ's, or 1911's. If I'm at a range ... I want a metal gun ... for carry ... my little P3AT and G20 get the job done just fine.

REV

 

[Anonymous]

I'm going to go with the .45ACP.

 

[revhigh]

A little advice ...

If the shop has multiple examples, ask to try them ALL, and then pick the one with the best trigger and tightest slide. Holding the gun in your right hand, put your left hand over the top of the slode, with your thumb pointing towards your stomach on the rear side of the slide, and try to wiggle the slide side to side. Although this method doesn't 'guarantee' supreme accuracy, it's always nice to have a little tighter slide to frame fit. If a looser one has the better trigger ... I'd go with the better trigger ... If the tightest one has the best trigger ... I'd go for that one.

Really concentrate on the triggers when selecting the one to take home. There's no issue dry firing a 1911 so the shop shouldn't care. Always ask first if it's OK to dry-fire though.

What I do is put my left thumb between the hammer and frame and dry fire with my right hand, recocking with my left thumb time and again so that the hammer never falls completely ... just releases to be caught by your thumb. That way you can try it over and over again .... analyzing the trigger, but have never let the gun be dry fired. You;ve just released the hammer (by pulling the trigger), and never really let it fall. Most knowledgeable shop owners will see you doing this, and then tell you it's OK to dry fire a time or two.

REV

 

[kstoneking]

My 9mm P94 also has the trigger slop the OP mentioned, much more than my P90. Both of these pistols have been 100% reliable with everything from FMJ, HydraShok and Gold Dots. Love them both.

Kenny