He uses 32 Wadcutter for everything.

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I recently retired and went shooting for the first time in quite a while. It was a slow day at the range and there was an older gentleman there shooting. He had 2 revolvers. I noticed that he threw away an empty box of 32 wadcutters as I was walking by. Anyway we got to talking and he told me he uses the 32 Wadcutters for not only practice, and he shoots it very well, but also for self defence if necessary. He says he has full confidence in his shooting ability and also in the round he shoots, the 32 Wadcutter.......
 
Basically a wad cutter makes a bigger wound than a pointy bullet. Obviously a hollow point if it expands makes a devastating wound, but if it doesn't expand it acts like a pointy bullet.

So the wad cutter may actually be the best choice especially for those who are recoil sensitive, and are shooting lower powered loads.

Edit: Congratulations on your retirement!
 
Basically a wad cutter makes a bigger wound than a pointy bullet. Obviously a hollow point if it expands makes a devastating wound, but if it doesn't expand it acts like a pointy bullet.

So the wad cutter may actually be the best choice especially for those who are recoil sensitive, and are shooting lower powered loads.

Edit: Congratulations on your retirement!
I’ve been hearing the same about WC’s and I’m going to get two boxes of these to try and likely carry in my J-Frame
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Thanks Eveled !! Yeah, 12/31/24 was my last day there.....Now to try to enjoy life a little bit more !!! This older gentleman was shooting an old H&R swing out cylinder and a gun that I really like and have too: a Ruger SSM in a 5 1/2 barrel. Both his guns were in great shape. I asked him if he ever shot the 32 Mag in his Ruger. He said back when he got it in the mid eighties, he had bought a couple of the old Federal 32 H&R 50 round boxes. He shot one box and still has the other box. Also, back in the 80's, he bought a ton of wadcutters from a gun shop going out of business. He has been shooting them all these years. He says he shoots only about once every month or so and shoots between 50 - 75 rounds or so when he goes. Seemed like a real nice guy and he is a pretty darn good shot !!
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Beware of the man that shoots only one gun? Taken to the next level. Maybe not a lot of excitement when it comes to the spice of variety, but very learnable & predictable.

I might call that boring, but that's a reflection of me, not the practice. I sometimes admire folks that find something that works for them & looks no further. Just think of the simplicity. One bullet mold, one powder. 200 cases or 2000, but no other cartridges to keep up with or take your cash.

Obviously the practice intrigues me, as I am spoiled and can't go there as much as I've considered it.
 
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I shoot a bunch of those 32 wadcutters. I’ve read many reports of that wide flat meplate doing work, and with the notable exception of 327 Fed I’m wanting as much penetration as possible.
 
Accuracy is everything...2 quotes that come to mind:
1. From the "Colonel"..."we could all carry 22's so long as we shot everyone in the eye"
2. From "Clint"...when he was once asked about the efficacy of 45- 230 gr hardball. "I carry hardball because I know they will always feed in my pistol...they may not be as effective as a JHP, but I'll just keep poking .45 cal holes in you till you quit being a threat"
A mild recoil load like those 32 wadcutters, placed accurately, can do a Lot of damage.
 
Like many folks, I shoot a lot of .38 wadcutters. These are also a favorite, for the reasons @eveled mentioned:

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Several years ago there was conversation in the gun world about using wad cutters in cold weather for better penetration through heavy clothes.
As I recall it most of the experts agreed.
Some folks were loading WCs in the higher power levels for that very reason.
 
There’s a gent on the 24 hour campfire forum that sells loaded .44 Russian 185 gr full wadcutters loaded at a modest velocity. They are reportedly very easy to handle in light weight 44 snubbies and as accurate as the shooter. With deep penetration and a big meplat no doubt they’d make wonderful SD loads.
 
Nothing new here, the lead bullet wadcutter in 32 or 38 calibers works well as a man stopper. The plus is less recoil if used at target loading levels. So, faster follow up shots if needed and maybe more into the target. They are a great choice for CCW holders using those wheel guns.
The downside is for cops, who may be shooting through a car door, glass, a wall or shootings where there maybe stuff between the cop and bad guy. That type of shootings the Jacketed higher velocity bullet normally is a better choice. LAPD streets cops carried 38 spl 158 gr SW lead bullets for many years.
 
Yeah, it was nothing new to this guy, who's name is Charlie. He's been shooting his 32 full wadcutters for many, many years, and is very happy with what he shoots, and he does it very well.
 
I have read numerous times that a wadcutter installed backwards (hollow base forward) can be very devasting on impact with soft and hard tissue.
I have long believed that penetration is not the most important thing, delivering as much energy as possible is of equal importance.
 
I have read numerous times that a wadcutter installed backwards (hollow base forward) can be very devasting on impact with soft and hard tissue.
I have long believed that penetration is not the most important thing, delivering as much energy as possible is of equal importance.

This guy has documented the effects of loading wad cutters backwards, fascinating stuff:



Gunsam has great content. His testing is thoughtful and interesting.l
 
Inverted HBWC bullets can do a lot of damage to soft tissue and muscle. Bone, not as much.
The ideal bullet would be one that hits hard, expands a lot and penetrates all the way through. Leaving a big exit hole and after expending most of its energy, drops to the ground beside the target right after exiting.
Hunters like an exit hole that allows blood loss. And they like a bullet that expands to where the energy shock wave causes damage. And this includes the penetration of bone.

Sadly no one single bullet or caliber can do all that.

But depending upon the circumstances a WC bullet can do a lot.

BTW; I have shot a dog with an inverted HBWC long ago. In court the vet that treated the dog said that it had a 9” deep very nasty wound channel. The dog lived due to the vet.
 
Contender, I have to ask.....That dog must have done something bad to you or some one else for you to shoot it ??
 
"Contender, I have to ask.....That dog must have done something bad to you or some one else for you to shoot it ??'

I've shared the story a few times in the past.

My mother had a store here in Lake Lure. I used to live in a trailer behind it. Dogs would get into the trash, crap on the property etc. We dealt with that. But,, my mom's beloved dog,, a white German Shepard caught Parvo & almost died. Mom spent a bunch of money saving her.
She than called animal control about the dogs that roamed the area. No action for days. She called again,, and again,, no action for several days. She called a 3rd time,, and again,, no action for several days. In fact,, in court it was proven that she'd called over an 8 week period w/o any animal control response.
Finally out of frustration,, she told me to "Burn their butts" anytime I caught one on the property.
I normally kept a Ruger Security-Six .357 handy. I loaded it with custom handloads,, where there are (3) pieces of #1 buckshot in Speer shot capsules as my 1st (2) rounds. I kept (2) rounds of inverted HBWC's as my next (2) rounds. Lastly,, I kept (2) rounds of 158 grn JHP's in it.
Over the next few weeks I managed to buckshot 6 dogs. The load was mild enough,, that no serious injuries occurred. Most often,, between the distances & the mild load,, it'd burn their backsides a bit.
Well, I had fired a round of buckshot at a dog,, and didn't immediately reload the gun & replace the buckshot. The next day,, I had a dog (again) on the property,, and I fired a buckshot load,, which put it in gear. It was about 35-40 yds away,, and I fired a second round. Uh-oh. Inverted HBWC. The dog rolled & yelped pretty good. It ran to it's owners house. (BTW; the owner had previously told my mother & I that he didn't believe in keeping his dogs put up. And if was gonna shoot one,, just kill it.)

He called the police. The Chief came by. As we were talking, another of that guy's dog came onto the property. The Chief quietly told me to use the "3-S" rule. (The Chief has been dead for many years now.)

I was charged with "animal cruelty."
My mother paid for the lawyer.
The County admitted to NOT responding to her complaints.
The Chief testified he saw their dog on our property.
My mother testified about her problems AND that she'd told me to shoot the dogs. In fact,, she broke up the court as she was explaining about the "Dogs who come onto my property,, and they sh,, eerr deficate on my property." her almost saying the 4 letter word made even the judge laugh.
Then my lawyer cited NC laws.
Health hazards with feces, including Parvo.
Owners being held liable for damages to other property owners if their dog trespasses upon that property.
And he stated that by all accounts,, the owners refused to keep their dogs on their property,, and the County failed to do their job.

Case dismissed.

Did I intend to use an inverted HBWC on that dog? No. Did I follow my mother's instructions? Yes. Did the dog's owners take care of their dogs as they should have? No.

Afterwards,, the County caught 4 dogs on our property,, and the ones they could identify,, the owners got fined.

All this happened in 1981.
 
Thanks for writing all of that. That was an ordeal for sure.....After reading your post, the thing that came to me is the guy who owned the troubling dogs, and who was wholly and completely responsible for the whole darn mess in the first place. Sure, the "dogs" did the damage on your Mom's property, but they were just dogs. If their owner were to keep his dogs on his own property, none of this would have even happened at all.....As far as Animal control never coming out after all of the calls......they were a complete failure.... Perhaps maybe the troublesome dog owner AND the animal control folks also deserved to get some buck shot in the rear end too. Anyway, I'm Glad it all turned out OK for you....🙂
 
You are correct about the owner of the dogs.

When I started the shooting of the dogs,, my mom even said she didn't want them killed. And while I didn't kill any,, I did educated several,, that one fail was because of the numerous times they would visit our property, & cause issues.

Oh,, and we did try & locate the owners if we knew who owned them,, but we didn't know because most were roaming a LOT over a good sized area.

Another local dog story about such occurrences. A local Pharmacy had a dog that would cock his leg & pee onto the front door of the business. Actually he did it to a few places. It was a chow mix,, and wasn't very friendly. Nobody seemed to know where he belonged,, and a few folks would put out food for him.
The pharmacist tried to get animal control to remove the dog,, without success.
So he quietly put out the word to a few select people in the area,, that he'd pay a reward to anybody who took the dog out. The dog disappeared.
The pharmacist quietly asked a few folks if they had done it. One guy said; "That dog made a mistake. He jumped on my little Cocker where she was chained up. You do NOT attack my dog & live." He refused any reward.
We later saw signs go up in our general area offering a $500 reward for the return of the dog.
Apparently the chow lived about 9 miles away from the downtown Lake Lure area. He roamed all over,, and not close to home.

But it had attacked another dog on someone else's property. The "3 S's" came into play. End of story.
 
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