Hawkeye Guide Gun.
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It could possibly fulfill my “needs” but certainly not my “wants”. Once I want something I manage to find a need for it, real or imagined.
I would take a 6.5prc over a .30/06 any day
Threespears
Buckeye
That is EXACTLY the reason I don’t like the 30-06
Because you don’t HAVE TO get another rifle
But You still can if you want to
Because you don’t HAVE TO get another rifle
But You still can if you want to
Dual sighting options & with the great 06 it's a fine package for versatility, but it's heavy. Sheep & Goat hunters,,, hi country hunters may not give it a second look.
This discontinued synthetic Scout at 1# less & 1.25" or more shorter(adjustable LOP) OAL length in 6.5 CM checks some boxes as well.
This discontinued synthetic Scout at 1# less & 1.25" or more shorter(adjustable LOP) OAL length in 6.5 CM checks some boxes as well.
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Threespears
Buckeye
Nothing wrong with a 30-06Dual sighting options & with the great 06 it's a fine package for versatility, but it's heavy. Sheep & Goat hunters,,, hi country hunters may not give it a second look.
This discontinued synthetic Scout at 1# less & 1.25" or more shorter(adjustable LOP) OAL length in 6.5 CM checks some boxes as well.
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Busterswoodshop
Hunter
I have been hunting with a 30.06 for over 50 years.
Sorry to disappoint though.
I prefer the Remington 700.
Sorry to disappoint though.
I prefer the Remington 700.
Didn't mean to imply there was, a great cartridge for sure. But if I was a bettin man I'd say an 8.1 # rifle plus scope weight wouldn't be preferred by the majority. Or maybe not?
But didn't I say in my first post that the 30-06 was great? so thinking i had that covered.
Nice collection of Rams BTW.
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Threespears
Buckeye
Just agreeing with you that the 30-06 worksDidn't mean to imply there was, a great cartridge for sure. But if I was a bettin man I'd say an 8.1 # rifle plus scope weight wouldn't be preferred by the majority. Or maybe not?
But didn't I say in my first post that the 30-06 was great? so thinking i had that covered.
There is that... the .30 cals (30-06 or .308) are perfect for Mule Deer, Elk, Moose, even Bison. Overkill for Whitetail or Pronghorn. If you're shots are less than 200-300 yards, you have a lot more options. If you are shooting farther than 300 there are better options on that end of the spectrum also.
That gun pictured above has brought down over a dozen Elk, any where from 100-500 yards. I did pick up a Ruger American Gen II in 6.5 PRC for Pronghorn and a Hawkeye in 7 PRC for Elk out to 1k yards.
The 06 is still great no matter what counterpoints might be made. But yeah, others can fill in, particularly to the game or terrain.
I do think the 06 would do for most of us, & have had that strong opinion for a few decades. But I don't close my mind to the whole formula & new things as well.
I do think the 06 would do for most of us, & have had that strong opinion for a few decades. But I don't close my mind to the whole formula & new things as well.
If you’re a “hunter” then the old cartridge is great (implying planning, stalking, patience, and getting close). If you prefer sniping from 400+ yards, then you’d probably want to get a new cartridge designed for fast-twist barrels and top it with a big, heavy high-power scope. Despite this tongue-in cheek perspective, I think a matching Hawkeye Predator in a varmit cartridge (e.g., .22-250) would be a nice match.
But does one really require BUIS on little critters? Or Controlled Round Feed, (CRF) wouldn't it be far more thrifty to use a push feed like a Remington 40X Rifle and the Precision at lower cost for critters of a much lower MOA at longer distances? Still, at close range even the 06 from a 3 MOA Ruff &:Tumble Ruger might be effective?
Busterswoodshop
Hunter
The 30.06 will kill anything in North America , and has killed everything in Africa .
There are lots of good calibers out there , but the old 30.06 is hard to beat for an all around good caliber.
There are lots of good calibers out there , but the old 30.06 is hard to beat for an all around good caliber.
When I was looking for a .22-250, I wanted a 40X, but since Remington’s problems, I couldn’t get one, so I went with Ruger and they happen to have controlled round feed.
Has your Ruger proven to be sub MOA?
I bought a used nice condition M77 Mark II target in .22-250 and it is sub-MOA. Since at the time of purchase, I was also considering Hawkeye Predator in .22-250, I bought one of those, too, since they had just discontinued it, so it was my backup plan, but it’s still new in the box and never even taken out yet. I’m on the fence about selling it (the Hawkeye), since the older Mark II target was the one I always wanted years ago.
