Ia.redneck
Single-Sixer
Would you feel comfortable buying from an individual on Guns America if they had zero transactions? Thanks.
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Tommy Kelly
Buckeye
Everybody has to start somewhere.
Xrayist
Single-Sixer
That is a good point....if no one ever buys from someone with zero transactions, then how does one ever get the first transaction? :shock:
Comfortable? Not until I had corresponded with them by phone or emails, maybe checked out their web site (if they have one), asked for a couple of references, etc.
Maybe even call the FFL they're gonna use for shipping to see if the seller is a regular customer there, etc.
Maybe even call the FFL they're gonna use for shipping to see if the seller is a regular customer there, etc.
Skalkaho Slim
Blackhawk
This is exactly what I did when I did a trade online some years ago. I think it's a good idea.hittman said:
Sgt Garcia
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Skalkaho Slim said:
A seller doesn't always use an FFL for shipping.
I would at least want to talk to the person on the phone. That has made me more comfortable on several buys.
Dennis.
Sgt Garcia said:
Insisting on FFL usage is a good CYA.
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Ia.redneck
Single-Sixer
Thanks to all who replied, was looking at an old model 41 Blackhawk with some finish issues, but good price. Have to give that some thought.
BikerRN
Bearcat
Ia.redneck said:
I would want them to Email me pictures of the gun, with poses I request, like the underside of the frame and magwell to prove they could put their hands on the gun and actually had it in their posession. I would also want to talk with them on the phone.
Being that this is the Revolver section, maybe an up close of the Forcing Cone and another of the Hammer cocked looking down in to the gun.
Biker
EDK
Single-Sixer
Check out the gun with pictures, as suggested. Then do several phone calls and an email of two with the seller. Send him a postal money order with registered/certified delivery (whichever is cheaper) to pay for the gun.
1. You checked the gun out and it looks good.
2. Phone calls mean it's now WIRE FRAUD.
3. Emails mean WIRE FRAUD also.
4. Postal Money Order is MAIL FRAUD.
5. Registered/certified is MAIL FRAUD.
6. Someone signed for the letter...and the Post Office has it on file.
In the unlikely event someone burns you, he now will have the FEDS to deal with. Somebody sitting in an office would rather harass a low level swindler than go out and deal with drug dealers, etc. who have GUNS with REAL bullets AND the motivation to use them.
Last week a deputy US Marshal was killed and two other LEOs shot by a local while serving a warrant. The shooter didn't survive the encounter.
1. You checked the gun out and it looks good.
2. Phone calls mean it's now WIRE FRAUD.
3. Emails mean WIRE FRAUD also.
4. Postal Money Order is MAIL FRAUD.
5. Registered/certified is MAIL FRAUD.
6. Someone signed for the letter...and the Post Office has it on file.
In the unlikely event someone burns you, he now will have the FEDS to deal with. Somebody sitting in an office would rather harass a low level swindler than go out and deal with drug dealers, etc. who have GUNS with REAL bullets AND the motivation to use them.
Last week a deputy US Marshal was killed and two other LEOs shot by a local while serving a warrant. The shooter didn't survive the encounter.
The key phrase is "would I do business with a 0 transaction seller" In the simplest terms NO.....I`ve had my fill buying on Ebay in the past and do not wish to go through it again....
Some may think I`m not being very fair..........Well if the seller has a method that guarantees the condition and delivery I might consider
Some may think I`m not being very fair..........Well if the seller has a method that guarantees the condition and delivery I might consider
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Anonymous
WRONG on items 2 through 5. This is essentially a civil matter and no law enforcement agency is sitting around waiting to obtain a "no-knock" warrant just because YOU claim you were wronged. This nonsense claiming use of a USPS money order insures against mail "fraud" has got to stop being repeated. The only thing the USPS will do for you is run a trace to determine if the money order was cashed -- THAT'S ALL.EDK said:
You MAY -- and it's no guarantee -- MAY be able to file MISDEMEANOR embezzlement charges against a person who takes your money without delivery of goods. A lot of that depends upon the prosecuting authority for that jurisdiction, the ability to timely and accurately serve a court summons, and the amount of verifiable correspondence to support any charge of inability to deliver tangible items after receipt of money.
Anyone who repeats this NONSENSE -- and there are many other more choice things the information in the quoted post should be called -- obviously has no real experience in criminal or legal matters and should absolutely NOT be dispensing any "advice." If you disagree, EDK, please post up names, dates, case numbers, and other items that are a matter of public record and can be verified.
Here's a case of which I have personal knowledge: http://www.oscn.net/applications/os...e=caseGeneral&casemasterID=189201&db=Canadian
The person named in this charge pled guilty to misdemeanor embezzlement after receiving money for an arc welder and received a suspended sentence. He was ordered to pay a fine and court costs of $208.40 and to reimburse the person from whom he received money. It's my understanding that this person never received a dime, because the guilty party didn't have any money to give. Note that this was prosecuted on a LOCAL level, not by a U.S. Attorney's office, it wasn't investigated by the FBI nor did any of this other nonsense occur that you're leading people to believe will happen. (The buyer resided in Ohio and the seller resided in Oklahoma.) In fact, the main reason this crime was even prosecuted at all was due to the fact that this idiot was accused of stealing a car, accused of stealing farm equipment, accused of possession of a controlled dangerous substance, accused of manufacturing fake IDs, and a whole host of OTHER things.
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