I was going to buy the SR9C this week, but now I'm not after reading about the numerous and common problems many are having with this gun. I was really hot on getting the SR9C, but I sure don't intend on having to loc-tite the assembly pins in place to keep the gun together. What other gun has anyone had to do this on, within the first 200 rounds ? There are so many apologists saying that these problems are forgivable and can be worked around, but being an Engineer I can identify poor parts tolerancing and quality control easily. I've decided to give Ruger a year to 'get it right' before I give them my money for the SR9C, checking back often to see if these problems continue to be reported. In the meantime, I'll just keep firing away with my out-of-the-box perfect XD9 SC.
Gun-shy on the SR9C
- Thread starter PCollen
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For the number of complaints you hear... how many perfect reviews do you hear? and how many of the guns have been sold?
As an "engineer", you should understand that even with parts tolerancing, occasionally during manufacturing there is tolerance propagation that happens to create a problem. There is NO product that has a 0% flaw rate.
As an "engineer", you should understand that even with parts tolerancing, occasionally during manufacturing there is tolerance propagation that happens to create a problem. There is NO product that has a 0% flaw rate.
sixgun
Single-Sixer
Maybe Ruger should put a tube of loctite in the box or loctite the pins at the factory. :? Or as you suggest, ensure the pins have 100% retention.
Jeff Quinn
Single-Sixer
If I needed another SR9 or SR9c, I would buy one today with confidence.
I have fired several of them, and seen many others fired on range, and never saw a problem.
After stating all of that, any gun can have a problem. It is a machine, and machines break. Nobody in the business is better than Ruger at backing their products.
In addition to that, if you purchase the SR9c through www.galleryofguns.com, if it does not work, Davidson's will replace it.
Dandy pistol. Feels great in the hand, and easy to shoot.
Buy with confidence.
I have fired several of them, and seen many others fired on range, and never saw a problem.
After stating all of that, any gun can have a problem. It is a machine, and machines break. Nobody in the business is better than Ruger at backing their products.
In addition to that, if you purchase the SR9c through www.galleryofguns.com, if it does not work, Davidson's will replace it.
Dandy pistol. Feels great in the hand, and easy to shoot.
Buy with confidence.
Same here, I wouldnt hesitate to buy another one. One of my pins started walking after a couple thousand rounds. Its a minor inconvenience at best. Just push it back in if you notice it and carry on.
You really dont want to get me started on my opinion of engineers.
You really dont want to get me started on my opinion of engineers.
Big Stu
Single-Sixer
I have the SR9c and I LOVE it. It had some break-in issues at first but now it is the nicest shooting gun I have. I even prefer it to my Browning Hi-power. I would definitely buy another one, and I just might buy the SR40c when it comes out.
Verndog
Blackhawk
PCollen said:
I'm a tool design engineer as well and can tell you this is an awesome gun. This is a gun forum and things REALLY get over stated at times. If you want to wait so be it, you'll just loose out on a years use with no further guarantee of a perfect gun, but most people believe it's a reliable carry gun, excellent shooter, and excellent value for the $$ spent...me included.
I posted in that thread too and mine MAYBE moved .030 over 1000 rounds....big deal, and simple fix. If your an engineeer then surely you realize the difference between a press fit and slip fit is about .0005. You put too tight a press fit and you'll bust the trigger guard trying to punch it out. Besides, were talking about a handful of people here out of many thousands that even had the issue...big whoopie. :roll:
jhearne
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I think the biggest issue is the general negativity found in online reviews. Everyone sees something wrong and jumps online to bash or dog a company or product. If nothing's wrong, the majority won't even say anything. My advice is to take everything found online (as far as reviews go) with a grain or two of salt.
The SR9c is a good gun, many enjoy a flawless 9c.
Josh
The SR9c is a good gun, many enjoy a flawless 9c.
Josh
stoney7713
Bearcat
Well the same could be said about cars, building, power tools, so on and so forth... darn Engineers, I'm not going to walk into another building or parking garage, or drive a car again or use my power drill, it might fail.
All sarcasm aside, I think the SR9C has been proven well enough, and if anything does go wrong, Ruger will fix the problem.
As already stated, you'll hear the negatives more then positives online, it's a great place to rant and complain, about any gun. I'm sure you can find bad feedback on about every gun made.
I have a SR40 and have been thinking of getting the SR9C for summer carry. I wouldn't hesitate to get one if I decide to. Unless the SR40C comes out, I'd jump on it instead.
As far as the SR40, there seems to be even more scarce(positive posts) but when asked, most people have nothing but good reviews about it. I for one have yet to have any complaint about mine, only 500 rds to date, but it has worked flawless. My trigger is smooth, no FTF or FTE, great gun.
All sarcasm aside, I think the SR9C has been proven well enough, and if anything does go wrong, Ruger will fix the problem.
As already stated, you'll hear the negatives more then positives online, it's a great place to rant and complain, about any gun. I'm sure you can find bad feedback on about every gun made.
I have a SR40 and have been thinking of getting the SR9C for summer carry. I wouldn't hesitate to get one if I decide to. Unless the SR40C comes out, I'd jump on it instead.
As far as the SR40, there seems to be even more scarce(positive posts) but when asked, most people have nothing but good reviews about it. I for one have yet to have any complaint about mine, only 500 rds to date, but it has worked flawless. My trigger is smooth, no FTF or FTE, great gun.
Glasstream15
Bearcat
I'm a Quality Engineer. EVERY manufacturer in the world, of every product, has issues. If you want Rolls-Royce quality from early production, be prepared for some serious sticker shock. Even for evolutionary changes to proven products. The only way to eliminate the potential minor issues is produce THOUSANDS of prototype and pre-production models, Fix every possible issue found. 100% guarantee of reliability after that. Well until you open the box BECAUSE THERE IS ALWAYS ONE MORE BUG. (Sorry software guys.) Of course, unless your name is Gates or Trump you're not going to open the box because now that SR9C costs $25,000 dollars. So they get it very close. 99.8%. But there are still those little gremlins and that is what you hear about.
If I believed all the bad news I read about Kel-Tec I would NEVER have bought my two favorite carry guns, PF9 and P3AT. I might not even have my Glock 19. KP90??? Never seen anything but good about them except, to me, they are too big and heavy for comfortable carry. Great house and car gun and a joy to shoot.
Remember the only Perfect Person to ever live died on a cross 1978 years ago next Friday and He never made a mechanical device so there has never been a perfect mechanical device.
If I believed all the bad news I read about Kel-Tec I would NEVER have bought my two favorite carry guns, PF9 and P3AT. I might not even have my Glock 19. KP90??? Never seen anything but good about them except, to me, they are too big and heavy for comfortable carry. Great house and car gun and a joy to shoot.
Remember the only Perfect Person to ever live died on a cross 1978 years ago next Friday and He never made a mechanical device so there has never been a perfect mechanical device.
Simms65
Bearcat
I agree with the others. No product is perfect, but my SR9c has been flawless and accurate right out of the box. Of all the SR9c's my shop has sold since they were introduced we have not had one complaint. I'd estimate that at ~50 pistols. If you look around the 'net you'll find many positive reviews that aren't a 'sponsored' product in a gun rag.
Lateck
Single-Sixer
Another HAPPY SR9c owner here!
(I also own Toyota's that are "Death traps" - as per the head of the department of transportation during the "run-a-way" issues) :shock: :twisted: :wink:
The SR9c has been an outstanding firearm.
I would buy it again! :P
Lateck,
PS: My Toyota's never had a problem either :D
(I also own Toyota's that are "Death traps" - as per the head of the department of transportation during the "run-a-way" issues) :shock: :twisted: :wink:
The SR9c has been an outstanding firearm.
I would buy it again! :P
Lateck,
PS: My Toyota's never had a problem either :D
K_Mac
Bearcat
I think the 9c is a fine gun at a great price. I love mine; it feels good in my hand, shoots accurately, shoots everything I've fed it, and is extremely versatile using either a 17 or 10 rnd mag. I have not had a single problem after several hundred rounds (I don't keep track). Internet reviews are generally worth what you pay for them, but the SR9c has my enthusiastic endorsement. 8)
My SR9C has about 600 trouble free rounds through it. I love the gun, soft shooting ,reliable and accurate. Other then the slide stop being stiff the guns been rock solid and well worth the money. I plan on putting another 400 rounds through her next week.
Ratster
Bearcat
I really like my SR9c. No problems at all so far.
weiss27md
Bearcat
I'm glad I bought my SR9c. Even if you do run into a problem you just send it back to Ruger. I have 2 Rugers and am getting a 3rd right now. I plan on getting a 4th also, the SR1911.
atopper
Bearcat
is it just me or is the 10rounder with the pinkie extension an absolute perfect fit in the hand ???
havent even shot mine yet and i LOVE it !! i shoulda bought the black one they had too
havent even shot mine yet and i LOVE it !! i shoulda bought the black one they had too
Big Stu
Single-Sixer
atopper said:
Nope, it's not just you. It is a PERFECT fit for me as well, and I love shooting it with the 10 round mag as opposed to the 17 rounder. It just feels right.
tcanthonyii
Bearcat
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I LOVE MY SR9C. Did I tell you I love it? Good shooter and feels great in my hand. I hated 9mm till I picked up this gun.
Jake Bauer
Bearcat
My buddy had just turned 21, and had gone shooting with me a few times, and as we were leaving the range at the Bass Pro Shop there, he decided that he wanted to have his own 9mm pistol that he could eventually carry one day. He had about $500 to spend and he smacked it down on an SR9c without really even knowing much about it. Long story short, he loves the thing and shoots very accurately with it. Hasnt had any problems yet either.
boatme99
Bearcat
Absolutly no problems with mine. In fact, I've never had a problem with any of my Rugers going back to about 1981.
atopper
Bearcat
jeffegg2 said:
totally down for that trade !!!!!!!!!! PM and address i can send it to
any one else wanna trade ??? 10rd flat for a 10rd pinky ??
There's nothing wrong with a SR9C that a 40c won't fix :). But seriously, as a .40 shooter, I too had not considered a 9 "too seriously" until I handled the "C." I'm still holding out for the 40c, but have heard very good things about the 9. If the .40 wasn't just 'round the corner I'd seriously consider the 9, just 'cause of the specific "c" platform. Otherwise I'd be on to the M&Pc.
I have large-ish hands and actually prefer the flat. Middle and ring finger fit perfectly on the grip with pinky under and no gap between fingers.
On a side note, the CCW class instructor I had and his son tried my 9c and both loved it. They also commented on how well the grip fit (had the 10 rd flat mag in).
On a side note, the CCW class instructor I had and his son tried my 9c and both loved it. They also commented on how well the grip fit (had the 10 rd flat mag in).
