Gun buy
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That's been done before. Not sure there's anything wrong with it. Local cops might not like it, of course.
I figure you would have a few legal problems with ATFE. Probably have to do with a FFL and some forms. Just a guess you understand. :D
mohavesam
Hawkeye
Not here. I just wonder who paid for all the $50 gift cards.
Plus, count on your picture (face recognition) and other info being recorded for all time. Do the police have plate readers in your community?
Plus, count on your picture (face recognition) and other info being recorded for all time. Do the police have plate readers in your community?
Fox Mike said:
As far as I know there are no federal laws against personal one-on-one private sales/purchases of firearms so long as both parties are residents of the state where the transaction takes place.
Dunno about local ordinances but I haven't heard of any problems there, either.
I have heard about hassles with local cops that are not actually backed by any legal statutes . . . just harassment. Sam's comment is likely true.
All JMHO, of course.
I am sure the criminals will rush down and turn their guns in for $50. Wow, I'll bet it will really knock a dent in crime!! :)
FT44
FT44
Busterswoodshop
Hunter
They had one of those gun turn in programs in Tucson and quite a few people showed up to offer more money.
There was nothing the cops could do about it but whine.
There was nothing the cops could do about it but whine.
I'd think if the police wanted to they could find something to send you on your way... like peddling on the street with out a city license or such.
CGDustDevil
Buckeye
C.J. Grisham from Open Carry Texas has attended a couple police 'buy back' events with a booth and offered higher prices. To my knowledge, nobody has sold him any guns yet, but knowing C.J., that won't stop him tryin' again! And no, the cops really, REALLY don't like it. They don't like it an awful lot. ;)
Regards, Pete
Regards, Pete
powder smoke
Hawkeye
blume357 said:
Peddling is selling not buying. ps
It all depends on your state laws. Here in PA a PA resident can sell to another PA resident a long arm (as long as the seller doesn't think/know the buyer is prohibited from owning/possessing firearms). Not so with handguns, a private handgun transaction between PA residents still has to go through a FFL with a background check on the buyer.
That said, a FFL can buy from anyone, anywhere as per federal law and I don't think there are any states that disallow this. There was at least one case that I know of locally that an FFL set up in a private parking lot, with permission from the owner, right across the street from the police station where the buy back was being held. Police tried to run him off and he told them to shove it, he had permission to be set up where he was. They tried to get him moved but couldn't do a thing. He actually scored some pretty good guns (coming from widows and family members wanting the deceased's guns out of the house.) He also go a lot of parts guns.
That said, a FFL can buy from anyone, anywhere as per federal law and I don't think there are any states that disallow this. There was at least one case that I know of locally that an FFL set up in a private parking lot, with permission from the owner, right across the street from the police station where the buy back was being held. Police tried to run him off and he told them to shove it, he had permission to be set up where he was. They tried to get him moved but couldn't do a thing. He actually scored some pretty good guns (coming from widows and family members wanting the deceased's guns out of the house.) He also go a lot of parts guns.
blackhawknj
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When was the last time you heard of a "Turn in your controlled substances" event ?
caryc
Hawkeye
How come whenever you see these things advertised, they never say what will happen to the guns? I know we can assume lots of things but why don't they just come out and tell the truth?
Think of all the rash of burglaries to steal guns so they can get a free $50, no questions asked-----
Colonel Daddy
Buckeye
Was a local "buy-back" in Pensacola some years ago. My understandings all they took in were a bunch of broken non working single shot .22 rifles and some cheep handguns with a street price of $20 to $50....things like, well I'm not naming them...you get the idea. Probably most of them had been stolen. Be sure that any decent firearms were taken by LEO's! Did crime go down? What's your guess? Have been no more such programs. In Florida, there are few local laws that go beyond Federal Law, except maybe a few (very few) cities like Miami. None in Northwest Florida that I'm aware of. No FFL between citizens selling or trading firearms among citizens , but it's a good idea to know the person and not sell to a known felon. A Bill of Sale with DL or CCL/CWP# is advisable between persons unknown to you.
Never understood "buy-back". only one that can buy back is the one that sold you the gun in the first place. "Take Back" or "Buy From" is a more reasonable term.
As was asked, "where does the money come from for Law Agencies to buy these firearms?" Either from their budget or a city or county extension on their budget that comes from ...........tax payers :evil:
Never understood "buy-back". only one that can buy back is the one that sold you the gun in the first place. "Take Back" or "Buy From" is a more reasonable term.
As was asked, "where does the money come from for Law Agencies to buy these firearms?" Either from their budget or a city or county extension on their budget that comes from ...........tax payers :evil:
Colonel Daddy
Buckeye
Some are destroyed by cutting thru the frame. It can then be sold to someone who deals in parts. It's common to find such parts guns on Gunbroker or eBay.caryc said:
Ruger77shooter
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Didn't see it mentioned in the other posts, but might have been. It seems like to me that it is very possible a man could end up with a firearm used in a crime. With no paperwork to show who/how/when you purchased it, looks like it could get ugly at some point. I understand that there should be no reason for them to look at or test your weapon, but strange things could happen. But I certainly would not want any part of such a gun.
mohavesam
Hawkeye
caryc said:
CHeck with your local NRA rep.
In AZ, the NRA and AZCDL got a state law passed requiring municipalities to sell any confiscated material including firearms with all monies raised to be directed to the general fund (NOT police dept coffers), and specifically prohibiting destruction. :wink:
I think a lot of these you get a coupon or such from local businesses that you can get free stuff....
I read somewhere recently that there was one of these in Savannah Georgia last year and the group (not the police) promoted it and said all the guns would be destroyed... somebody later realized that there is a Georgia state law that prohibits this... any guns turned in must be checked to see if they are stolen and if so returned to owner or sold to an FFL but can't be destroyed. So there is a request to the state law enforcement devision to investigate.......
I read somewhere recently that there was one of these in Savannah Georgia last year and the group (not the police) promoted it and said all the guns would be destroyed... somebody later realized that there is a Georgia state law that prohibits this... any guns turned in must be checked to see if they are stolen and if so returned to owner or sold to an FFL but can't be destroyed. So there is a request to the state law enforcement devision to investigate.......
Mega Twin said:
I agree, however, those doing the "turn-in" are rarely the criminal types, just those looking to get rid of unwanted, unusable or junk guns. The FFLs that I know that have done that have had no problems with people giving them their addresses for his books. The FFL selling point is the people get cash not a prepaid gift card. Plus the information that is entered into the FFL's bound book goes nowhere unless it is subpoenaed, or the ATF inspects the books (and sees something out of the ordinary), or a police investigation somehow leads them to him (extremely rare) or the FFL gives up his license (then, everything gets sent to the BATFE out of business section where they scan them and put them in a server somewhere.) If the records are 20 years old or older, the FFL can destroy them if they so desire.
Also, one has to be foolish to not think the police have pictures of known bad/prohibited people that might just be dumb enough to show up to try to get rid of a "hot" guns. My police friends always have ready access to pictures of "wanted" or "persons of interest", so I would think the police manning these turn ins have it too.
