Anybody here from Texas close to this tragedy? Hope you’re all well!
https://www.foxnews.com/us/devastat...dead-emergency-crews-race-find-others-missing
https://www.foxnews.com/us/devastat...dead-emergency-crews-race-find-others-missing
Guadalupe River flooding
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My great nephew is at summer camp in Hunt, at Camp La Junta, so I've been pretty concerned about him. His folks drove over to Kerrville (as close as they could get to the camp) and are waiting to see what they can find out. camp La Junta’s facebook page recently posted that all their campers are safe and accounted for. Thank God!
I've read accounts to the effect that over 20 counselors and little girls are missing from Camp Mystic, nearby.
Prayers for the safety of all are appreciated.
I've read accounts to the effect that over 20 counselors and little girls are missing from Camp Mystic, nearby.
Prayers for the safety of all are appreciated.
I agree, all the best of wishes and prayers for those at risk.
Armybrat
Hunter
My niece who is on the staff at Camp Honey Creek for girls (near Hunt) climbed up the hill behind the camp early this morning to get cell service.
She called her mom & authorities to report that all their 100+ campers were safe and dry in the dining hall building, but without power.
However, they are stranded as the roads in are impassable and the kitchen employees can’t get there.
All their camp canoes & other watercraft were swept away by the flooding creek.
She called her mom & authorities to report that all their 100+ campers were safe and dry in the dining hall building, but without power.
However, they are stranded as the roads in are impassable and the kitchen employees can’t get there.
All their camp canoes & other watercraft were swept away by the flooding creek.
Wow, I just read the news about this. The gauge at Hunt recorded a 22 foot rise in 2 hours.
I hope the campers are ok.
I hope the campers are ok.
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Horrible
thoughts and prayers for ALL the folks affected in this tragedy, so sad and caught them ALL off guard from what we've seen and heard,,,,,,
Armybrat
Hunter
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Ruger Guru
Dern,, this is too close to things we had here last fall. Prayers for all affected.
OP
Yeah this took an ugly turn ……. 
https://www.foxnews.com/us/devastat...dead-emergency-crews-race-find-others-missing
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/devastat...dead-emergency-crews-race-find-others-missing
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Texas officials said between 23 and 25 people remain missing from the all-girls Christian camp known as Camp Mystic as of Friday night
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AT LEAST 2 TRILLION GALLONS OF RAIN FELL OVER THE TEXAS HILL COUNTRY AND EDWARDS PLATEAU ON FRIDAY MORNING — THAT'S FOUR MONTHS OF RAIN IN JUST FOUR HOURS CREATING A 30 FOOT WALL OF WATER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
NEARLY 2 TRILLION GALLONS OF WATER FELL ACROSS THE TEXAS HILL COUNTRY
TO PUT THAT INTO PERSPECTIVE, IT COULD SUPPLY 11 MILLION HOMES WITH WATER FOR 1 YEAR OR FILL 1.5 MILLION OLYMPIC POOLS
NEARLY 2 TRILLION GALLONS OF WATER FELL ACROSS THE TEXAS HILL COUNTRY
TO PUT THAT INTO PERSPECTIVE, IT COULD SUPPLY 11 MILLION HOMES WITH WATER FOR 1 YEAR OR FILL 1.5 MILLION OLYMPIC POOLS
Really bad. I saw something similar when a levee broke a mile north of my place a few years back. Literally a 'wall of water' sweeping everything in it's path.
No human lives lost but several cattle failed to escape to higher ground. I was in water almost waist deep rescuing equipment and would have washed away if not for the 20' tow chain attached to the tractor.
No human lives lost but several cattle failed to escape to higher ground. I was in water almost waist deep rescuing equipment and would have washed away if not for the 20' tow chain attached to the tractor.
GasGuzzler
Hawkeye
13 deceased and 23 missing as of this morning. I have a cousin in New Braunfels but he is very slow to respond to inquiries. The area in question is almost six hours' drive south of me.
People not familiar with weather in that part of Texas cannot comprehend how quickly water can build up and flood an area. Living in San Antonio years ago I remember being amazed, at first, at the concrete culverts built to handle the volume of water during heavy thunderstorms. These structures were huge, and at first I thought that they had to be massively overbuilt since it seemed incomprehensible that these dry channels could ever fill with water. Then I observed them full to almost the top during a heavy but brief storm and it made a believer out of me. That first year we lost a cat who drowned while apparently hunting in one of these structures where the water rose so quickly that she was unable to scramble up the sloped side to escape in time.
Terrible! Prayers for all!
Armybrat
Hunter
This is catastrophic - poured down in the area west of Austin again last night, for a total of 15"-28" in the past 48 hours.
24 fatalities so far (12 of them little girls 8-10 years old at the camps) and still dozens missing - mostly children..
We've had only 4" of rain so far, as we are not even on the edge of the heavy stuff, and it will continue all day.
All this moisture is from the system that crossed over Mexico this past week.
Kids still being rescued by helicopters….
24 fatalities so far (12 of them little girls 8-10 years old at the camps) and still dozens missing - mostly children..
We've had only 4" of rain so far, as we are not even on the edge of the heavy stuff, and it will continue all day.
All this moisture is from the system that crossed over Mexico this past week.
Kids still being rescued by helicopters….
Armybrat
Hunter
And Kentucky just had a similar catastrophe.
Armybrat
Hunter
Just horrific. Best wishes for all in the region.
OP
GasGuzzler
Hawkeye
The numbers will continue to rise for a few more days. There is only a small chance of escape from a wall of water in the darkness.
Vito - the heavy rain and flooding is not originating in the Austin area. No...it starts 75-100 miles west in what is referred to as Texas' Hill Country - land west of Kerrville, along the Guadalupe, Medina, Sabinal and Frio rivers. This is ranch land with little underbrush, lots of Mesquite, Oak and Pecan trees, and very few residents. In fact, the Hill Country is the world's largest producer of pecans.
Hill Country towns are 20+ miles apart, many with populations of 500 or fewer people even today. Many of those small towns were founded by German, Polish and Czech immigrants during the 1840s-1890s. Perhaps this spartan environment explains why this thinly populated area contributed an out-sized percentage of our military heroes, including Admiral Chester Nimitz (Commander in chief of the Pacific Fleet throughout WW II), and Texas A&M graduate MG James Rudder (a graduate of the original class of Army Rangers who, as a Lt. Col. in charge of the 2nd Ranger Battalion, led the successful assault on Pointe du Hoc during the Normandy invasion).
The Hill Country is semi-arid, with annual rainfall of less than 20". Consequently, those towns have no need for sewer or similar infrastructure, and their counties couldn't justify building it for "once every 50 year" flood control, never mind paying for it if they did build it.
Rivers in those areas are spring-fed, rarely more than 3' in depth and have shallow banks often 1/2 mile wide. The area's soil is a chalky/sandy mix that does not support vegetation undergrowth. Consequently, Hill Country rainfall doesn't soak in, but instead runs off into the rivers. During the very infrequent heavy rains, the run-off quickly turns into floods that make their way, unimpeded, into the rivers that run through the Austin, New Braunfels and San Antonio area.
I have personal knowledge of this area. A great uncle once lived, and is buried in Medina (population 1,500), which is 20 miles south of Kerrville and 15 miles north of Bandera (self-proclaimed Cowboy Capital of the World). Many of the Hill Country's little towns sprouted up during the 1860s - 1880s cattle drives, when longhorn herds were driven to Nebraska, Wyoming and similar places. Much of the cattle drive activity along the Goodnight-Loving Trail and Chisolm Trail originated in this part of the Hill Country, and those cattle drives were the inspiration for author/screenwriter Larry McMurtry's novel and mini-series Lonesome Dove. In fact, Lonesome Dove actor Tommy Lee Jones was born and still lives on a ranch in San Saba, population 500, which is about 100 miles north of Kerrville on SH 16. [So, Jones' Capt. Call accent isn't fake. It's real, so real that Jones once mused whether he earned his pay for this part.]
McMurtry wrote many novels and screen plays that were situated in the Hill Country, and he is widely acknowledged as one of Texas' best historians about "Texas' old west."
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Larry-McMurtry
Hill Country towns are 20+ miles apart, many with populations of 500 or fewer people even today. Many of those small towns were founded by German, Polish and Czech immigrants during the 1840s-1890s. Perhaps this spartan environment explains why this thinly populated area contributed an out-sized percentage of our military heroes, including Admiral Chester Nimitz (Commander in chief of the Pacific Fleet throughout WW II), and Texas A&M graduate MG James Rudder (a graduate of the original class of Army Rangers who, as a Lt. Col. in charge of the 2nd Ranger Battalion, led the successful assault on Pointe du Hoc during the Normandy invasion).
The Hill Country is semi-arid, with annual rainfall of less than 20". Consequently, those towns have no need for sewer or similar infrastructure, and their counties couldn't justify building it for "once every 50 year" flood control, never mind paying for it if they did build it.
Rivers in those areas are spring-fed, rarely more than 3' in depth and have shallow banks often 1/2 mile wide. The area's soil is a chalky/sandy mix that does not support vegetation undergrowth. Consequently, Hill Country rainfall doesn't soak in, but instead runs off into the rivers. During the very infrequent heavy rains, the run-off quickly turns into floods that make their way, unimpeded, into the rivers that run through the Austin, New Braunfels and San Antonio area.
I have personal knowledge of this area. A great uncle once lived, and is buried in Medina (population 1,500), which is 20 miles south of Kerrville and 15 miles north of Bandera (self-proclaimed Cowboy Capital of the World). Many of the Hill Country's little towns sprouted up during the 1860s - 1880s cattle drives, when longhorn herds were driven to Nebraska, Wyoming and similar places. Much of the cattle drive activity along the Goodnight-Loving Trail and Chisolm Trail originated in this part of the Hill Country, and those cattle drives were the inspiration for author/screenwriter Larry McMurtry's novel and mini-series Lonesome Dove. In fact, Lonesome Dove actor Tommy Lee Jones was born and still lives on a ranch in San Saba, population 500, which is about 100 miles north of Kerrville on SH 16. [So, Jones' Capt. Call accent isn't fake. It's real, so real that Jones once mused whether he earned his pay for this part.]
McMurtry wrote many novels and screen plays that were situated in the Hill Country, and he is widely acknowledged as one of Texas' best historians about "Texas' old west."
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Larry-McMurtry
OP
https://www.foxnews.com/us/camp-mystic-director-dies-while-trying-save-kids-during-texas-flooding
The camp director and co-owner of Camp Mystic in Hunt, Texas, died in the catastrophic flooding as he reportedly raced to save the lives of his young campers.
Dick Eastland, who purchased the camp in 1974, died after the wall of water crashed through the Christian summer camp, which is located along the banks of the Guadalupe River, Texas Public Radio reported.
The report cited a Facebook post from Eastland's nephew, though the post has since been taken down.
Counselors, former campers and politicians who knew Eastland praised him for his heroic actions and ultimate sacrifice to save his campers.
The camp director and co-owner of Camp Mystic in Hunt, Texas, died in the catastrophic flooding as he reportedly raced to save the lives of his young campers.
Dick Eastland, who purchased the camp in 1974, died after the wall of water crashed through the Christian summer camp, which is located along the banks of the Guadalupe River, Texas Public Radio reported.
The report cited a Facebook post from Eastland's nephew, though the post has since been taken down.
Counselors, former campers and politicians who knew Eastland praised him for his heroic actions and ultimate sacrifice to save his campers.
At a news conference this morning, Kerr County officials said there were 59 confirmed fatalities in the flooding, including 21 children. They also said 11 campers and one counselor are unaccounted for.
How Sad,
Father confirms Blair and Brooke Harber died in Texas flooding
Blair Harber, 13, and her sister Brooke Harber, 11, have died after going missing during the catastrophic flooding in Kerr County, Texas, their father confirmed
Harber also shared that his parents, Charlene and Mike Harber, remain missing and are presumed dead.
How Sad,
Father confirms Blair and Brooke Harber died in Texas flooding
Blair Harber, 13, and her sister Brooke Harber, 11, have died after going missing during the catastrophic flooding in Kerr County, Texas, their father confirmed
Harber also shared that his parents, Charlene and Mike Harber, remain missing and are presumed dead.
How can some people have this much evil in them by being happy about death to fellow man??? 
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