Chance
Buckeye
Great gun and great info Dave. Thanks
Fully engraved S47 found... Final Update.
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Cholo said:
Well, if you look closely, you can see that there is some bluing wear on this gun. In talking to the consignment dealer who sold me the gun, he said the owner had carried it and fired it. It ain't a virgin, so I might just shoot it....
I heard some more information tonight. Seems the owner that I bought it from, got the gun from a prominent Oregon Winchester collector. The Ruger was traded for a vintage Winchester "many years ago" according to what I can gather.
Also, both former owners attended many national shows, Tulsa included, and it could have lived anywhere in the US since being engraved. I have other feelers out looking for additional information and will keep those interested posted. Stay tuned.... :wink:
Dave
Interested, indeed!!!!
Sorry I missed it by 2K............. 8)I stand corrected and will update the value on my DeMunck FT accordingly :wink:
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HAWKEYE#28 said:
Mr. Evans prefaced his estimate of cost to do the work by saying that he is on the "low end" of the scale to have this done. He said many of his colleagues may charge twice as much. :shock: I guess there are folks that can afford the embelishments but it must be an awful thin market.....
Dave
I think Cole Agee is a good possibility, but I don't believe it is the work of Alvin White. Mr. White usually inlaid a small gold or platinum rectangle in the grip frame that had AA White Engr debossed on it. It is nice to see a fully engraved and inlaid Super Blackhawk as there are not that many large cailber Rugers that have been engraved.
Bill
Bill
flatgate
Hawkeye
Only one word comes to mind.
WOW! Beautiful work.
Sure, I've found engraved Ruger Single-Actions. They have all been don by "bubba's bumper shop in Po-Dunk Wyoming!
Awesome! There's a point when this "non factory" stuff jumps ahead of the stringent "is it Factory" categeory and belongs in the ART category.
JMHO,
flatgate
WOW! Beautiful work.
Sure, I've found engraved Ruger Single-Actions. They have all been don by "bubba's bumper shop in Po-Dunk Wyoming!
Awesome! There's a point when this "non factory" stuff jumps ahead of the stringent "is it Factory" categeory and belongs in the ART category.
JMHO,
flatgate
May not be the right word*, but, I don't think cole Agee's work showed this much "finesse"*..Just sayin'. I remain mezmerized by the fluidity of the engraving, and the sheer amount and greatness of the gold work. What a treasure! :wink: :!:
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Today, I walked the Ruger around the local show here in Vancouver, WA. I'll tell ya, there were lots of oohs and aahs and there are a lot more fingerprints on the gun! Several were Ruger enthusiasts known to folks here on the forum that reside in the Northwest. "Suzie", "Skip", and Phil Trebnik come to mind......... Suzie actually fondled the SBH before I ever seen it and was mulling a purchase. She waited a day to make up her mind, and by then it was in my safe. (I found that out today at the show). She was disappointed, but was glad a "Ruger" person was able to get it. Funny how things work out..... I got a few phone numbers from folks wanting to trade or buy this gun, but I said "no thanks"! These guns don't come around every day and I want to savor the moment...... I really hope to get more information in the near future. Anyone here is more than welcome to send this link out to whomever, to assist in cracking the puzzle...........Thanks to you guys for your suggestions, I can use the help!
Dave
Dave
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Well a credible source at fega.com thinks it could have been engraved at the Citori factory in Japan. I didn't know they did handguns.....thought it was just Winchester and Browning shotguns......just his opinion, but he is an expert.
americal
Hunter
8) 8) he may have it nailed...Reguardless its one fine engraved RugerHeliman said:
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More information and the link to the topic on the FEGA forum.
http://forum.fega.com/forums/showthread.php?144-Engraved-Super-Blackhawk-engraved-by
Dave
http://forum.fega.com/forums/showthread.php?144-Engraved-Super-Blackhawk-engraved-by
Dave
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Well, I have been aggressively pursuing leads as to the engraver of this revolver. Bottom line is that there is a consensus among a half a dozen or so experts tha it is well done, in the style of Japanese-American engraver "OGAWA". It is similar to Bill Mains and Jim Eyester's dad, neither of which engraved it. More likely that Ogawa did it while still in Japan for a US serviceman in the early 60's. But again, it is still according to the experts well done. If I hear anymore, I will update the post.
Dave
Dave
radicalrod
Hunter
I have an engraved Singlesix at home stashed away that I bought from a guy that had it done while he was stationed in JAPAN.....I will dig it out....it certainly is not nearly as complex a job as this Super has.....RR.
Here is an Ogawa engraved .357 - from the Washington/Oregon area. I have an engraver in No. California that can give you more information on him. He was known to frequent the Cow Palace Show in S.F. and engrave guns during the show. Very fast and great work. Not saying that yours or the .357 pictured here was done on a weekend but he was known to knock some stuff out quick. I believe he also checkered wood stocks too. If you want a good contact e-mail me and I will get the number for you. Nice gun you have there - a keeper for sure.
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jussbad said:Here is an Ogawa engraved .357 - from the Washington/Oregon area. I have an engraver in No. California that can give you more information on him. He was known to frequent the Cow Palace Show in S.F. and engrave guns during the show. Very fast and great work. Not saying that yours or the .357 pictured here was done on a weekend but he was known to knock some stuff out quick. I believe he also checkered wood stocks too. If you want a good contact e-mail me and I will get the number for you. Nice gun you have there - a keeper for sure.
Nice gun Gary!
The style sure is similar..... Sent you a pm.
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Okay, my last contact and several other experts seem to think that this gun was engraved by a Japanese engraver sometime in the 60's. Whether done in America or not is unknown. All agree that it is really nice work done by a skilled engraver. Most all agree that the grips were done separately and probably installed in the early 70's. All agree that the grips are elephant ivory. I guess for the time being that will have to do......
Dave
Dave
Really good stuff, Dave.
PM sent.
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PM sent.
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I got a letter from Ruger today. This revolver was shipped November 1963. Embellishments as we know were done after shipping date...... Dave
Ruger1nut
Blackhawk
Dave either way and noi matter who did it you have one fine revolver there.
Now go shoot it and enjoy it
Dave
Now go shoot it and enjoy it
Dave
