FTE?

RMFC

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So I went out to the range yesterday and put 200 rounds through my SR9. Right around 150 i pulled the trigger and the round shot but the action did not cycle. I had to release the magazine, pull back the slide and lock it in place, and use an empty casing to pull the one out that was stuck in the chamber. My gun was clean, as i am OCD about cleanliness. I was shooting blazer 115gr for the first time. Was this just a FTE? I'm new to guns so gimme any and all opinions. thanks.
 
If there is no damage to the extractor, and the other cases all ejected, I'd say it was probably just a bad case. Never had it happen with my SR. Just out of curiosity, is the Blazer aluminum or brass cased?
 
It was brass cased. I checked the extractor and it was fine. After I removed the casing, I shot through about 50 more rounds with no problems at all.
 
RMFC said:
So I went out to the range yesterday and put 200 rounds through my SR9. Right around 150 i pulled the trigger and the round shot but the action did not cycle. I had to release the magazine, pull back the slide and lock it in place, and use an empty casing to pull the one out that was stuck in the chamber. My gun was clean, as i am OCD about cleanliness. I was shooting blazer 115gr for the first time. Was this just a FTE? I'm new to guns so gimme any and all opinions. thanks.

Sounds a lot like a squib load... You better have your barrel checked. Next time if your slide does not cycle, unload, break down, and check inside the barrel for a round jammed in there. You could blow up the gun trying to fire it out.
 
I was going to mention Squib load... but since you shot the pistol 50 more times.. you are okay... could have still been a bad load that did not have enough power to throw the empty cartridge & slide back.

but you should have for sure checked the barrel to make sure it was clear after it Failed to Eject
 
blume357 said:
I was going to mention Squib load... but since you shot the pistol 50 more times.. you are okay... could have still been a bad load that did not have enough power to throw the empty cartridge & slide back.

but you should have for sure checked the barrel to make sure it was clear after it Failed to Eject

It still could have been a squib. He needs to have the barrel checked before he kills himself.
 
blume357 said:
I was going to mention Squib load... but since you shot the pistol 50 more times.. you are okay... could have still been a bad load that did not have enough power to throw the empty cartridge & slide back.

but you should have for sure checked the barrel to make sure it was clear after it Failed to Eject

I definitely checked the barrel to make sure the slug was not still in it. Also, what is a squib load?
 
Load without enough power to get the bullet out of the barrel. Usually just primer with no powder.
 
blume357 said:
.. could have still been a bad load that did not have enough power to throw the empty cartridge & slide back.

Is it possible to have a load shoot the bullet out the barrel but not have enough power to cycle the slide? (assuming no other problems)

I ask because I can cycle an empty case out of the pistol by racking the slide, but I can't push a bullet through a barrel.
 
When a failure to extract happens, you should eyeball the case before you remove it from the chamber. What you want to look for is damage to the base where the extractor should have grabbed. Look for damage there.

After you remove it, compare the base to one that did extract, looking for under spec diameter.

From what I read, sounds like a bad case.
 
I think the official definition of a squib load is when the bullet does not exit the barrel. But, I think it is possible to have the bullet exit the barrel and the pistol still not cycle the slide... I could be wrong. One of my biggest regrets in shooting is not having a camera with me to take a picture of a squib load I had on my Sig 230 one time... the round was actually stuck in the last 1/8th of an inch of the barrel.... sticking out the front. I had dropped my magazine pouch in the lake beside our boat with two fully loaded magazines in it... it took me 30 minutes or more to get my scuba gear out and dive down 35 feet to retrieve it. So, I new the rounds were suspect and went to the range the next week to check them out... One mag had Georgia Arms Gold Dots in it and those would not even fire... seems the primers were shot. The Sellier and Bellet rounds, the primers went off but most were squib loads.
 
blume357 said:
I think the official definition of a squib load is when the bullet does not exit the barrel. But, I think it is possible to have the bullet exit the barrel and the pistol still not cycle the slide... I could be wrong.

That's exactly what happened. Although I had never heard of squib loads, I was concerned that there might have been one in the barrel. I did not strip it down to check it, but I did make sure that there was nothing in it. When I stripped it to clean it after the trip, I took a good look down the barrel and it did not seem that there were any deformations, ie knicks, non factory grooves, dents.
 
the damage that could have been done was if the round had lodged in the barrel and you fired another one behind it... could have blown up or I suppose sent both out but done damage to the barrel. But since the round exited the barrel, no harm.
 
ArmedinAZ, Yes it is possible to shoot a "squib" out of a barrel but not "often" and not too "bright" an idea! I had a customer come in one day to have an old model Blackhawk .357 checked out after he had done just "that"! I kept that revolver a couple of days to check it as close and well as I could and found absolutely "no" damage to the gun. Set it up in a rest and fired it with a "string" from a distance with no problems. Then fired several more rounds also without incident. I might add, I'm convinced that incident was a complete "fluke"! Any time I have had other guns brought in with that problem, there was always some very noticeable "damage"...................Dick :wink:
 
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