Frost on ice?

Dan in MI

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This is a new one for me. These icicles have been there for a few days. Standard clear smooth icicles. Over night they got fuzzy. Temps have been in single digits for a couple days, last night we went to the negative teens.


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I think that could be considered "Hoarfrost". I've seen trees and bushes covered with a Hoarfrost but don't recall seeing it on icicles. Do you have a clothes dryer vent in the vicinity, to create moisture?
 
nekvermont,
Thanks for putting a name to this weather event. When I was working a winter on Sakhalin Island Russia, we had this appear one day. It is the first time I had ever seen it, and it was absolutely beautiful. I grew up in Ohio worked in Canada and other cold places, but this was a first.

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We call it rimfrost here. My gramps used to say that 6 months after a rimfrost, to the day, there will be rain 🤷‍♂️

I have never tested that theory.
 
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I think that could be considered "Hoarfrost". I've seen trees and bushes covered with a Hoarfrost but don't recall seeing it on icicles. Do you have a clothes dryer vent in the vicinity, to create moisture?

nekvermont,
Thanks for putting a name to this weather event. When I was working a winter on Sakhalin Island Russia, we had this appear one day. It is the first time I had ever seen it, and it was absolutely beautiful. I grew up in Ohio worked in Canada and other cold places, but this was a first.

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Hoarfrost is beautiful. Doesn’t happen a lot or stay around long.
Hadn’t heard that term in a few years. It was in our SOP that it was acceptable to have thin hoarfrost on the fuselage and launch with it. We could also have some on the cold soaked fuel tanks but not on the leading edges or control surfaces. Would usually form from high humidity and a cold surface.
 
Now that I have seen .
I've seen that in the high desert. After a good rain when the washes dry out if you get really cold nights the frost just seems to grow out of the sand. Forms a solid crust and as you walk it squeaks as you break through. Listened to what turned out to be a coyote working his way up a wash one night. In the morning you could see his tracks and the ground all around was still frozen.
 
They’re not quite as advertised...

The water/sap does freeze and break through the bark, but far from explosively. They do however make a loud crack resembling a .22. I heard it years ago in similar conditions.

The ones I saw looked like they exploded, but it was caused by wind after they were frozen. The frozen trees didn’t have any flexibility and shattered in high winds.
 
That’s more of a frost heave. Where a whole section is forced up, Very common.

I meant when ice pushes up in a spike sometimes lifting a pebble.

I guess Its called needle ice?
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