I've noticed several ads recently on the internet, and on TV, saying essentially "forget about a gun, all you need is our flashlight". While I don't doubt the value of a really good flashlight, it is a false reassurance to tell people that it will be as effective as a gun against a determined attacker. The TV ad shows the flashlight holder lighting up the burglar about to break in through a window, and leaving once he is spotted. This reminds me of the also irresponsible ads, in my opinion, telling women to carry a whistle, or pepper spray as adequate defense against an attacker. An ad that said, "ideally you should have a gun, and be trained in its use and be mentally prepared to defend yourself with this gun, but if you won't carry a gun, then maybe pepper spray, a flashlight, a whistle or a decent knife would be better than nothing" would be more rational, but it doesn't seem likely to happen.
"Forget getting a gun" advertisement
- Thread starter vito
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The home alarm company adds are the ones that get me.... "Protect your family with ADT" or what ever... wish the NRA would come out with one showing what you really need to protect your family....
A sign in the front yard stating "Protected by John Moses Browning and William Ruger" would be more appropriate in my house. Was never impressed by ADT. We had them as our security at the local Military Armory and I was called in time after time after time for false alarms.blume357 said:
OP
I've noticed several ads recently on the internet, and on TV, saying essentially "forget about a gun, all you need is our flashlight". While I don't doubt the value of a really good flashlight, it is a false reassurance to tell people that it will be as effective as a gun against a determined attacker. The TV ad shows the flashlight holder lighting up the burglar about to break in through a window, and leaving once he is spotted. This reminds me of the also irresponsible ads, in my opinion, telling women to carry a whistle, or pepper spray as adequate defense against an attacker. An ad that said, "ideally you should have a gun, and be trained in its use and be mentally prepared to defend yourself with this gun, but if you won't carry a gun, then maybe pepper spray, a flashlight, a whistle or a decent knife would be better than nothing" would be more rational, but it doesn't seem likely to happen.
GunnyGene
Hawkeye
These ads are designed to make people think something else (a can of soup!?) is as effective as a firearm. It's a damn lie that will likely get you killed. :evil: :evil:
bogus bill
Hunter
I had a friend who was a helicopter pilot on the sheriffs dept. He and his partner were flying at night and spotted some thief on the roof of a business with a TV set. He come down, they lit him up with the spot light and they said over the speaker, "This is God! That`s a no no! He said the guy jumped off the roof and broke a leg!
contender
Ruger Guru
bogus bill,,, now that one is funny right there! I love it.
OP
I hadn't thought about the home security ads, but I do agree that they are very deceptive. They always show the burglar running out of the house as soon as the alarm sounds, but one would be very foolish to assume that this will actually happen. I would love to see an ad by a major gun manufacturer, maybe showing a woman at home alone with young children, and suddenly the sound of glass breaking as a home invasion begins. The woman would gather her children together, tell them that the police will be on the way because the alarm was activated, and then have her say something like, "if this criminal gets to this room before the police get here, don't be worried, Mom is armed and knows how to use this gun" and show her in a defensive stance with an appropriate firearm. I won't hold my breath waiting to see such an ad. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that TV stations and cable companies probably already have policies prohibiting gun ads, just as they do about hard liquor.
GunnyGene
Hawkeye
vito said:
Not exactly what you are looking for, but gets the point across anyway. :wink: :lol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wypFgcqHyvc
Many others on Utube, just search for home invasion commercial.
steelshooterco
Single-Sixer
The flash light does work, they hear a round being chambered on the 870 pump, the flashlight on the front mount comes on and they run like heck!
I think it works great, work for the AR and laser/pistol mounts too!
I think it works great, work for the AR and laser/pistol mounts too!
57springer
Buckeye
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:steelshooterco said:
OP
Maybe someone will sell a device that makes the sound of racking a shotgun.
contender
Ruger Guru
Actually,,, during the election,, the NRA did run an ad about home defense,,, where the armed lady was about to defend herself,,, then,,, poof,, the gun was gone,,, and it was about Hillary taking away your rights. BUT,,, the NRA was able to get the gun for SD in a position there.
Also,, I have seen Crimson Trace ads where the use of a gun against a bad guy was aired. Just not on mainstream TV.
But I fully agree that the alarm companies are selling THEIR product, & are NOT there to provide a better option. They are there to provide THEIR option,,, lining THEIR pockets. They, along with many feel an alarm system, or other such devices like flashlights etc. is the only way to go.
Also,, I have seen Crimson Trace ads where the use of a gun against a bad guy was aired. Just not on mainstream TV.
But I fully agree that the alarm companies are selling THEIR product, & are NOT there to provide a better option. They are there to provide THEIR option,,, lining THEIR pockets. They, along with many feel an alarm system, or other such devices like flashlights etc. is the only way to go.
opos
Buckeye
Recently I thought I'd purchase one of the highly advertised and well rated home security systems...our home is well fortified and armed but we are old and live in an area that can be a bit marginal as far as crime. I did the research and determined what I wanted and ordered it...it was on sale for the Holidays and seemed like a decent situation...looked simple to install and straighforward.
It was delivered and all looked great. Then I contacted the police department for the permit to have a system. Seems that due to false alarms from these kinds of systems a person can find themselves in a mess with "fines" and penalties and eventually lose the right to even have one. I started to ask around and to read up on things other than the "reviews" put out by the manufacturer...the system had a 60 day unlimited warranty for full money back if the system were not wanted....It's gone back and I'm waiting for my refund (which I am certain will show up). Just didn't look like something a couple of old folks want to mess with if the chances are pretty good that we will be occasionally setting off false alarms....I guess the police are not at all friendly toward these little self installed units...
We don't have a dog but we have several "beware of dog" signs and a great dane next door that barks and growls...we will just go with that for now.
It was delivered and all looked great. Then I contacted the police department for the permit to have a system. Seems that due to false alarms from these kinds of systems a person can find themselves in a mess with "fines" and penalties and eventually lose the right to even have one. I started to ask around and to read up on things other than the "reviews" put out by the manufacturer...the system had a 60 day unlimited warranty for full money back if the system were not wanted....It's gone back and I'm waiting for my refund (which I am certain will show up). Just didn't look like something a couple of old folks want to mess with if the chances are pretty good that we will be occasionally setting off false alarms....I guess the police are not at all friendly toward these little self installed units...
We don't have a dog but we have several "beware of dog" signs and a great dane next door that barks and growls...we will just go with that for now.
GunnyGene
Hawkeye
opos said:
Defense in Depth. I've mentioned this before.
No single line of defense is sufficient in and of itself. Besides physical barriers, (locks, alarms, dogs, guns, etc.) the concept of DiD includes such things as advance warning thru knowledge of the likelihood of attack, knowing when somebody is coming onto your property before they ring the doorbell, and so on. All of the things that we should but don't always practice when out and about, apply equally to your home turf whether it's an apartment or a 1000 acres of ranch land. Technology (such as a driveway alarm, CCTV that let's you "see thru the door", etc. ) helps with some of that.
Don't just give up. Contact your local PD about home security. Many Depts offer free assessment and advise on what you can do.
Face the fact that security costs money. Just ask the Federal Govt. :wink:
exavid
Hunter
I agree a flashlight mounted on the firearm might be of some use, but a laser sight with a red dot on someone's chest would be an even better deterrent.
"Maybe someone will sell a device that makes the sound of racking a shotgun."
That has worked for me several times. Once, I approached a guy whose apparent intention was pilfering from an outbuilding. After quietly positioning myself to best advantage, I pumped the old 870 and said "I'm not God but I'm as close as you're going to get tonight". The guy was truly terrified and started shaking so bad he could hardly talk.
Very little need for an alarm here--minimum 30 minute response time from Sheriff's Dept so anything that's going to happen will be done before they arrive.
That has worked for me several times. Once, I approached a guy whose apparent intention was pilfering from an outbuilding. After quietly positioning myself to best advantage, I pumped the old 870 and said "I'm not God but I'm as close as you're going to get tonight". The guy was truly terrified and started shaking so bad he could hardly talk.
Very little need for an alarm here--minimum 30 minute response time from Sheriff's Dept so anything that's going to happen will be done before they arrive.
Armybrat
Hunter
vito said:
There is a Glock ad narrated by The Gunny depicting a young woman defending herself with a handgun. It's kinda funny too.
