Flat top bisley bullet diameter

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I am about to start loading and have contacted Fermin about reaming the cylinder throats; 430 jacketed bullets drop through the cylinder snugly but easily. I plan on ordering 240gr SWC cast to shoot through it. Should I get 430 or 431?

Worth still sending it to be reamed or load up 430/431 to see if there are any restrictions and move on with life?
 
I would do whatever Fermin says …… trust him without hesitation
 
I hate to admit this, but I've been reloading for over 50 years and have never checked a cylinder measurements but ONCE when a used .357 Blackhawk sprayed bullets in an 8" pattern. Other than than once, I just load up using the 'bullet measurement' suggested in the loading manual and don't think twice. Every handgun I've ever owned shoots better than I'm capable of (and I'm a pretty GOOD shooter).

Sometimes we overthink things.... like NOW :-).

J.
 
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My first “measurement” is always on the target. If there are problems then I start looking at the gun. 3 different FT 44’s and they all shoot .430 bullets like a laser. Don’t know about the throats. If you can push .430 bullets through then I would say reaming is definitely not necessary.

If you are really concerned, you can send the cylinder to Fermin and he will measure and give advice for the price of shipping only. If he recommends reaming he will let you know.

I think I would just go shooting 😀
John is right, we tend to overthink some of this stuff.

Dan
 
Have you slugged the bore? Throat diameter should be equal or slightly larger than groove diameter.
 
It's so unbelievably easy and fast to slug a bore and chambers. Not sure why you wouldn't do this for each and every revolver.
 
I concur 100% wth slugging the bore and the cylinder throats. More barrels are fairly easy to measure but Smith & Wesson barrels have five lands and groove so unless one has the special type micrometer to measure the slug from the barrel the best one can do is an educated guess.

Let's say the gun is a .44 magnum and the groove diameter is .429" Also, let's say the throat diameters are all exactly .430".(Not likely but sometimes one gets lucky.) Then I would size the cast bullets at .431".

Where the problem with the throat comes in is if it's too small. Using the numbers above if one of the throats is too small, say .428", loads from that chamber will probably never be accurate and definitely a source of barrel leading. Not good.

I've done the above one just about all the revolvers I've ever owned and it does make a difference. For one thing, the only jacketed ammo I used are in my self defense handguns. For any other purpose I shoot strictly only my own home cast bullets. I've been using cast bullets in my handguns since the middle of August 1954. I run cast in quite a few rifles as well including deer hunting back when money was scarce.
Paul B.
 
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