Finally carried my SR9c

Sonnytoo

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Yes, I had an early gun that had several trips to Service for various problems. BTW, Service did a fine job. After I got it back again, I shot a couple hundred, then put it away. That was 6 months ago.
I got it out today; it went to town with me IWB.
I managed to scrape my left palm several times loading and unloading the gun and while checking the chamber. My fault, not the gun's.
I remembered why I dislike the mag safety disconnectior so much. I wanted to dry fire, and I have full mags. I know I can pull it out of there, but...
And I really do like the manual safety so I can carry Condition One like my 1911's. But, I sure hope I remember that the safety is on if I need the gun in a hurry. I'm rather used to Glocks and there is no manual thumb safety on those. Yes, of course I need to train with this gun before I carry it any more. But it is a nice design and I still do like this Ruger.
I'm going to use it for a while and see if it grows on me.
Sonnytoo
 
Glad you can trust it now, Sonny. Too bad you had issues originally, but I'm glad you're feeling more and more comfortable with it.
 
Love mine for daily carry. Never got into the Glocks except for a year or so in IDPA, and I've always shot and competed with 1911's...the thumb safety is a no brainer for me to work.

Glad you are getting to start using yours for what it was designed for. :)
 
I also had issues with it when NEW ....repaired by Ruger (500) rounds since no problems. I use the thumb safety when I carry and practice all the time (DRY FIRE) with snap caps....drawing removing the thumb safety and firing. I have also removed my Magazine Disconnect....not recommended for everyone.
 
I also removed the mag disconnect....actually, it was the first thing I did when I opened the box when I brought it home. As for the manual safety, I'm also not sure if I'd remember to take it off if I was in a major hurry, so I carry it same as I would my Glock.....no safety. I engage the safety, holster the gun, click the safety off once it's in the holster.
 
vacextar said:
I engage the safety, holster the gun, click the safety off once it's in the holster.

That's kind of redundant, and totally unnecessary unless you don't have good trigger discipline. Your finger should be nowhere near the trigger unless you're prepared to pull it (the trigger) in response to a threat. Although it won't hurt, you're better off practicing proper trigger discipline so that you won't ever have to do that. Plus, if you ever DO forget to take it off safety after holstering, when you go to fire it, it won't go bang, and chances are ... you won't know WHY it didn't go bang. One thing that's emphasized during firearms training is simple and consistent. taking a gun off safety when it's in your holster is certainly not recoommended, even with a striker fired gun.

I don't know ANY firearms trainer who would recommend, or for that matter condone it in his class. I'd seriously reconsider that and/or take a class emphasizing proper gun-handling and trigger discipline.

REV
 
I don't find it unnecessary or redundant...thank you very much. I have been handling handguns for two and a half decades now without ever even coming close to an AD. I know where my trigger finger belongs and when it belongs there. Just because you don't find it to be a very good practice doesn't mean that it won't work 100% of the time for me. You don't forget to take the safety off when you draw a cocked and locked gun, and I won't forget to take the safety off after it's safely in the holster.....same thing to remember...one happening when the SHTF and one happening when I'm focused on what I'm doing when holstering my weapon. Which scenario do you think will be easier to remember to take the safety off?

I don't tuck my shirt in.....ever. Do I want to take the chance of a chunck of my shirt tail or who knows what (insert Murphy's law here) catching the trigger when holstering? Nope. Do I want to have to try to remember to click the safety off when the SHTF? Nope.

Some like DAO. Some like DA/SA. Some like cocked and locked. Some striker fired. There is no 100% consistent proceedure that applies to drawing, loading, holstering all of these different varieties of pistols. You can't just say "always put the gun on safe when holstering".....or "if you've got good training, you should'nt ever have to put the gun on safety before holstering." Neither of these is going to apply to a gun with no safety, like a Glock. Would you holster your 1911 cocked with the safety off? Maybe you can explain to me the danger of my proceedure? Is the gun going to go off when I take the safety off with the gun in the holster? Have you been watching too much TV regarding the Remington 700 rifles?
 
My thoughts and one reason I prefer the safety, there are going to be far more potential instances I'm glad the safety is on then I wish it was off. By that I mean moving and general handling of the weapon and potential unexpected moments that can and will occur.

I practice all range work after loaded - safety on - put down
draw - click - shoot.
draw - click - shoot.
draw - click - shoot.
Each new mag, same thing.

Practice at home as well, and motion to remove from holster and click safety is one motion. I am confident this is a working formula, but if it's not...I won't be able to let you know LOL.
 
I think this is a perfect case of "Whatever works for you". There is nothing wrong with practicing with your safety whether you have it on or off. The key is to be absolutely consistent with your training practice. However you choose to handle your weapon, as long as you are (pardon the pun) safe about it, is up to each individual.
 
vacextar said:
Would you holster your 1911 cocked with the safety off?

Certainly, although that is not my normal mode of carry. IIRC, John Browning's earlier design had the 1911 without the manual safety, and it was only with the demands of the military that he added one to the blueprint.
I am also told that certain paramilitary units go into harm's way without the safety being applied, just to eliminate that factor.

Sonnytoo
 
Like Big Stu and verndog have said, if it works for you and you practice it that's all that matters. In the end, the only person you have to justify your choices to are yourself and those you'd hope to be able to protect with your weapon. Practice, practice, practice.
 
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