Different 10-22 problem- Update and Diagnosis

[TampaRuger]

I just bought the kids a 10-22. I have problems reliably cycling rounds. With an aftermarket 25 round magazine, I just get the occasional jam and I a chalking this up to break in. Does this sound reasonable?

The factory 10 round magazine is a different story. First round chambers, but then the magazine does not seem to seat properly, so subsequent rounds do not chamber. If I hold the magazine in tight (when just cycling, not shooting) it cycles fine. Have any of you had a problem with the magazine seating poorly?

It was a little frustrating for the kids today. Not good when I am trying to get them interesting in shooting.

Thanks

 

[hittman]

Remington ammo?

Do you have more than one factory 10 round mag to try? My experience is all the Ruger factory mags are very reliable but ..... you coulda got a bad one.

Seems most problems with 22's can be solved with different ammo or mags. NONE of my 22's like Remington ammo.

 

[TampaRuger]

Thanks.

CCI Stinger ammo. I figured I'd try better ammo. The 25 rd. Mag is a Butler Creek. It worked OK with Blazer ammo. A few issues, but I seriously chalk that up to break in. The problem withe 10 round seems to be proper seating.

M

 

[Pinecone]

TampaRuger, I like to spray a little oil in new 10-22 magazines to get them working smoothly. Once they are working reliably, then run them "dry"!.................Dick :wink: PS: Welcome to the forum!

 

[CraigC]

The Butler Crek mags are hit and miss, especially those with plastic feed lips. If you want a reliable 25rd magazine, get one from Ruger or Tactical Inc.

All my .22's run on Remington bulk ammo.

 

[Sal1950]

New gun or used? If new call Ruger and tell them your problem, maybe they'll send you a new mag to try. Its either that or the gun needs to be looked at.
Or borrow a factory mag from someone to try first.
Sal

 

[TampaRuger]

THanks- new gun and I called them this morning. New mag on the way to try. If no joy, I send it back to NH.

 

[Lateck]

When I got my 10/22 and Butler Creek 25 rd mags I also had issues. The bolt would hit the lips and not cycle completely.
I used my leatherman and ran the file across the back end of the B.C. mag's lips. (where the bolt hits first). Then no problem.
Lube them up also should help.

Good Luck,

Lateck,[/list]

 

[BlkHawk73]

Butler Creek mags...heck about anything I've seen from them wasn't wroth the $ for anything other than a paperweight. They're cheap for a reason.

 

[TampaRuger]

Thanks guy- My issue is with the factory mag.

M

 

[Rick Courtright]

If I hold the magazine in tight (when just cycling, not shooting) it cycles fine. Have any of you had a problem with the magazine seating poorly?

Hi, and welcome!

One of the bad things about living in CA is we can't get hi-cap mags. One of the good things about it is we're not plagued w/ those aftermarket 25 rounders that often seem to drive folks nuts (apparently not just the BC brand!)

Now on the factory mag:

Have you pulled the trigger ass'y and checked the plunger/spring ass'y on the mag catch to make sure it works smoothly? Dunno how they are w/ the new plastic trigger housings, but w/ the earlier metal ones, I've run into some burrs (in the housing, on the plunger, or both) that hung up the plunger, making it difficult to seat some of the mags. A drop of oil doesn't hurt it, either!

Make sure there are no burrs on the mag "nubbies" that hold it in and seated as well...

Rick C

 

[Kevin]

There might also be an issue with the factory wood stock which is causing the magazine to not seat correctly. Have you removed the action from the stock to see if it fits correctly?

I'd probably just wait for Ruger to send you a replacement magazine to see if that is the issue.

Please be sure to post the outcome, I'm curious. I only have two 10/22's but haven't had a problem you describe.

 

[blume357]

I have a friend over in Seminole that might be willing to look at it for you if it continues to be a problem.... if the new mag still causes trouble it sounds to me like it might be the stocks mag well cut too.

My buddy over near you has a 10/22 he runs with cheap after market mags at 1100 rounds a minute... its legal too, at least for him.

 

[TampaRuger]

Thanks for the offer. Let's see how new mags work.

 

[donw]

The Butler Crek mags are hit and miss, especially those with plastic feed lips. If you want a reliable 25rd magazine, get one from Ruger or Tactical Inc.

All my .22's run on Remington bulk ammo.

I'll go along with this one.

i had trouble with jamming until i went back to the factory, steel lipped, magazine.

keeping the 10/22 AND it's magazine are a must for proper operation.

 

[TampaRuger]

The Butler Crek mags are hit and miss, especially those with plastic feed lips. If you want a reliable 25rd magazine, get one from Ruger or Tactical Inc.

All my .22's run on Remington bulk ammo.

I'll go along with this one.

i had trouble with jamming until i went back to the factory, steel lipped, magazine.

keeping the 10/22 AND it's magazine are a must for proper operation.

Thanks - my issues are with the factory magazine. I am expecting two new magazines next week and hope that they solve the problem.

 

[TampaRuger]

OK guys- just tried two different factory magazines and same problem. Clearly, the magazines are not seating properly. If I hold them in tight and cycle manually, everything works. If I do not hold them in tight, they either jam or just do not feed at all.

Next step is probably to send rifle back to Ruger.

 

[Kevin]

Huh, that's interesting, I wonder what the problem is. Good luck.

 

[TampaRuger]

OK- After spending some more time with the rifle and all three magazines, I have a pretty solid diagnosis. The problem is that the magazine does not stay fully engaged. When I insert, it seats completely. After a shake or two or very gentle prying with one finger, the mag drops about an 1/8" to 3/16" at the front. I appears that either the spring that pushes the mag forward (I suppose it is behind the round faced plunger that also serves as the release) is not strong enough. Could be the fit between the front of the mag and the receiver, but I doubt that. The hole at the front of the receiver is cast and machined and I have the same problem with three mags. I think the spring is either not strong enough or the plunger (?) does not fully engage. Here is a photo of of the mag in it's loose (most of the time) position.

Any thoughts?

 

[Rick Courtright]

I appears that either the spring that pushes the mag forward (I suppose it is behind the round faced plunger that also serves as the release) is not strong enough.

Hi,

Chances are the spring is strong enough, but, per my earlier post, it could be something's binding the plunger. Have you taken it out and cleaned, deburred and LIGHTLY lubed it yet?

I don't know how much plastic Ruger went to in the trigger housing/ass'y, but am assuming the plunger itself is still metal. If so, a bit of 600 wet/dry paper w/ a drop of oil on it can be used to smooth the machine marks you're probably gonna find. It's sometimes surprising how little roughness it takes to bind things up.

Might not be the whole answer, but, as my old gunsmith boss used to say, "First let's get it working the way Ruger intended." That was a thinly disguised slam at their fit and finish... which often defeated otherwise good design work.

A good "fluff and buff" can do wonders!

Rick C

 

[TampaRuger]

I received a reply from the factory yesterday. They say that the receiver is damaged beyond repair and that they are replacing it. Not sure how a receiver in a new gun can be "damaged beyond repair," but at least the company is being responsive. Cost me shipping up to NH and a transfer when it gets back (new receiver = new gun).

 

[Hondo44]

Did you buy it new? Obviously you didn't do any kind of damage to it so it makes me think it has a problem that they know about and it's not the 1st. Unless he told you more, I would take it apart and see if I could see the problem before I sent it back otherwise you and we will never know what the problem is. And you won't even have to put it back together!

 

[Doublenut9]

I bought 2 new 10 Ruger magazines from Cabela's. I had one that worked great and one that would not feed. Took it back, exchanged it and the new one works like a champ.

The guy at Cabela's said they have had some problems recently with these magazines.