Dangerously high cholesterol

[gnappi]

Well after all of these years with high cholesterol and refusing to take statin drugs a trip to the ER got me to re-consider. So with statins and a more healthy diet consisting of more fish and less lean meats I'm spending more time at the sushi take out. Oh well, I always did like eating the bait, now I have an excuse!

 

[Hawk-in-Wi]

maybe try doing some more reading

 

[gnappi]

I do, and Japan is one of THE lowest countries in the world for heart disease. Now if they'd stop smoking and drinking they might live to be 200.

https://www.ncesc.com/geographic-pedia/which-countries-have-the-lowest-risk-of-heart-disease/
https://www.thehealthy.com/heart-disease/countries-lowest-heart-attack-rates/
https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/cause-of-death/coronary-heart-disease/by-country/

 

[Hawk-in-Wi]

well ok then I guess i know when I being told to shut the H up , so be it

 

[hittman]

Thank you Dr. Hawk ….. :rolleyes:

Be nice to avoid another COVID-type thread.
His health ~ his choice.
Carry on.

 

[contender]

Ohh, after my recent trip to the ER & then the hospital,, I can sympathize.

But I love the sushi myself.

 

[gnappi]

well you you buy into taking statins ok then

Choices? I'm all ears because fish oil, Red Yeast Rice, Niacin etc was of no help. One mini stroke was a warning sign so I'll I'll take my chances.

 

[JohnL]

Since you posted the sushi, here is a suggestion on sashimi, you know raw fish. I buy it from our market Sushi department. It is usually fresher and better quality than the fish in the meat department. I take it home and sear it lightly on both sides. So, it is not exactly raw. This more palatable for me and might help with the parasites often found in raw fish. Just a suggestion.

Nix on the bacon and such.

 

[JackBull]

You have entered the Medical Meat Grinder. Good luck.

Statin side effects:
Muscle damage
Liver damage
Type 2 diabetes
Heart failure
Cognitive impairment
Cancer
Pancreatitis

 

[gnappi]

You still offered no suggestions because doing nothing has no good associated with it either.

 

[Johnnu2]

Years ago I asked my friend, and cardiologist, if this cholesterol medicine he was prescribing for me was just more b.s., and a money maker for doctors in general. He said he would equate it to "a single pill that could cure all cancer" (if such a pill existed); it's that effective and necessary. I've been taking the meds for MANY years and you are not going to find a man my age who is healthier (and so far totally illness free) than me.... no brag; just fact. I like sushi too, but MODERATION in all things is goodness.

J.

 

[Dan in MI]

You still offered no suggestions because doing nothing has no good associated with it either.

I will tell you this. Take it for what it's worth.

My father in law was fighting cholesterol before statins became a thing. He lived on basically sticks and twigs for 3 years and his cholesterol did not change a bit. Sometimes your body makes what it wants to make.

Re statins. I am am intolerant of all of them. Random strong muscle aches all over. Tried them all years ago. Always had the side effects. I am now living by my wife's slogan, "if God determines it's your time he will have a greyhound bus come through your bedroom wall if required."

 

[XUSNORDIE]

I'm on "statins" and whole lot of little shapes I swallow every morning and night for CAD, High Blood Pressure, High Cholesterol, and not to mention the "good stuff" for joint pain. It all brought my multiple issues under control. Did the cancer thing and have a nice smiley face scar from my side across my belly from it.....the meds work for me no worries.

Post #1 has me hungry for lunch early....and a urge to go fishing. Some of the other posts such as reading more and side effects made me laugh...

 

[ArizonaTea123]

Ivermectin was discovered in the 1970's by the Japanese to find an effective solution to raw fish parasites.
Eating raw fish can lead to other health issues.
Probably better off just baking salmon and cod.

 

[vito]

I had very high cholesterol and underwent quintuple coronary bypass surgery for 90% or higher blockages, almost 30 years ago. My doctor had me start on Lipitor, which I still take. I eat anything I want including cheeseburgers and other high cholesterol foods but my serum cholesterol stays in the healthy range regardless. Statins have been a life saver for me, and I have not had a single coronary issue since that bypass surgery and starting Lipitor.

 

[sfhogman]

Being an old guy, I sometimes have health concerns. And when I do, I talk with a medical doctor who has a Bachelor's degree, MD, and has done an internship and residency. That guy usually explains what's going on, along with a plan of action. Sometimes he refers me to a specialist, who has all the above learnin' and a few years more.

For me, this seems to work.

 

[Yaworski]

My father in law was fighting cholesterol before statins became a thing. He lived on basically sticks and twigs for 3 years and his cholesterol did not change a bit. Sometimes your body makes what it wants to make.

My father never had high cholesterol and wound up need a quadruple by-pass in his 60s.

In an effort to control my cholesterol I lived on salads and grilled chicken for about six months, didn't help one bit.

 

[mr.deerstalker]

90% family genetics...live your life. and on top of that, im not interested in eating supermarket 8 to 10 hour old sushi made by a pink hair, tattoo, pierced loser, and now smells like Honduran whore on Sunday morning. ill pass.

 

[wproct]

I'm 79 years old and I have been on statin drugs for at least 25 years, probably more. They have put my cholesterol in the normal range. I too have had some issues with muscle problems and they simply put me on a different statin and it pretty much goes away. I admire people who eat healthy foods, my daughter and son in law are vegetarian, eat very healthy, and control their weight very well, and I'm sure they are going to be rewarded for that. My problem is that I still enjoy hamburgers and fries, I try to minimize them, but I still eat some. A big thing for all of us is to exercise and try to keep our weight at a healthy range if we can.

 

[foxtrapper]

Ok to ask your age ,weight and physical activity?

 

[jg123]

Statins and exercise keep my levels within standards-63 years old.

 

[rotor]

Even if you never eat anything with fat you can still have high cholesterol which is made by your liver. It's all genetics. On the other hand, raw fish and parasites don't sound too appealing either. Have been on a statin for 25 years. Still here at 82. No raw fish for me.

 

[rotor]

Years ago I asked my friend, and cardiologist, if this cholesterol medicine he was prescribing for me was just more b.s., and a money maker for doctors in general. He said he would equate it to "a single pill that could cure all cancer" (if such a pill existed); it's that effective and necessary. I've been taking the meds for MANY years and you are not going to find a man my age who is healthier (and so far totally illness free) than me.... no brag; just fact. I like sushi too, but MODERATION in all things is goodness.

J.

Why would prescribing a statin be a moneymaker for the doc? He makes the same whether he prescribes a drug or not. Raw fish though you take your chances.

 

[foxtrapper]

Folks taking statins, what were your numbers before. How much did the statins bring your numbers down?

 

[Fox Mike]

My LDL has been 'high' for many many years. My HDL and triglycerides have always been on the low end of the 'acceptable' spectrum. I went back through 20+ years of flight physicals and my LDL was just about the same numbers (+/- a couple numbers) throughout my entire time. It is still on the high side. After eating stuff I wouldn't feed to the raccoons I never dropped more that 2 pts. Today (6 March) I am exactly two months from 88 years old and I honestly am not loosing any sleep over high numbers. .

 

[Goldstar225]

I have been on statins for several years. They caused significant problems for me with muscle cramps, often waking me 5-6 times a night with leg cramps. My Dr. advised me to start taking CoQ10 supplement. I started taking 200mg daily. While it has not totally eliminated the cramps it has dramatically reduced the frequency and severity. It took about two weeks before the improvement kicked in.

 

[JackBull]

Why would prescribing a statin be a moneymaker for the doc? He makes the same whether he prescribes a drug or not. Raw fish though you take your chances.

Did you see the side effects I posted? Prescribing drugs feeds the medical machine!!

 

[Lt92]

I'm 79 years old and I have been on statin drugs for at least 25 years, probably more. They have put my cholesterol in the normal range. I too have had some issues with muscle problems and they simply put me on a different statin and it pretty much goes away. I admire people who eat healthy foods, my daughter and son in law are vegetarian, eat very healthy, and control their weight very well, and I'm sure they are going to be rewarded for that. My problem is that I still enjoy hamburgers and fries, I try to minimize them, but I still eat some. A big thing for all of us is to exercise and try to keep our weight at a healthy range if we can.

Exercise and weight...keys to life

 

[JackBull]

You still offered no suggestions because doing nothing has no good associated with it either.

Are you not able to do a internet search on your own? Have you seen a Naturopathic doctor? What is your exercise regimen?

 

[JackBull]

Even if you never eat anything with fat you can still have high cholesterol which is made by your liver. It's all genetics. On the other hand, raw fish and parasites don't sound too appealing either. Have been on a statin for 25 years. Still here at 82. No raw fish for me.

Genetics is just an excuse.