caryc
Hawkeye
I just saw on TV that Bond Arms is now selling a 4570 cal derringer. Man...it must be a bear to hang onto that thing. $699 !!
Bond Arms
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They have a 50AE also:
Threespears
Buckeye
You go first 
I think I’ll pass
My hands and wrist hurt too much already
My hands and wrist hurt too much already
Nah. I have three Bond Stingers in the shop right now, 38spl, 9mm and 380. Interesting little guns but man they are heavy. I can only imagine the weight on the 45/70.
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No thanks, I'll pass.......... 
powder smoke
Hawkeye
Not for me!
OP
caryc
Hawkeye
That's my question....Why?
too much of the stuff they are putting out today is just that..."why"??? 
Reminds me of a Boss Hoss I once had the dubious pleasure of riding. Chevy 350 powered motorcycle...goose the engine at a light and you could have the word "Edelbrock" stamped into your inner thigh.
Sorry for the thread drift. I'm old and sometimes I do these things...
Sorry for the thread drift. I'm old and sometimes I do these things...
Look at some of the videos available........I watched one where the 45-70 was pitted against the 50AE.......neither impressed me. There was no diabolical recoil tattooing the shooters forehead.....either the loads are watered down or those folks had one hell of a grip and massive forearm strength.....seemed like normal folk to me.
I loved my Marlin 444 and miss that rifle immensely.......I had the opportunity to fire a 444 in a BFR......silly us used my 300gr XTP loads.......nobody fell over backwards, no forehead tats, and nobody dropped the revolver. Stung the wrist for sure though.
I loved my Marlin 444 and miss that rifle immensely.......I had the opportunity to fire a 444 in a BFR......silly us used my 300gr XTP loads.......nobody fell over backwards, no forehead tats, and nobody dropped the revolver. Stung the wrist for sure though.
I own these 3. They are fun guns and none hurt my hand to shoot. .410-45 colt, 9mm, 45acp.
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My hands could not take shooting one of these. I had a S&W 640 before I switched to a 642. Firing 38 Special was not bad, but even 38+p was no fun, and 357 Mag was terrible for me. My arthritic hands don't even like 38+p in the 642, so I stick to 38 Special hollow points.
Bob Wright
Hawkeye
Bob Wright
Hawkeye
Some years ago a man showed up at the local range with a double deringer type pistol in .45 Colt. It was stainless with stag grips. He asked me it I were afrad to shoot it and I accepted the invitation. With stout .45 Colt loads recoil was severe but managable. I only shot maybe twenty rounds and the next day the palm of my hand was sore. At 110 yards the barrels struck about eight feet apart. (Just aimed at the berm to throw up dust to see where I was hitting. Certainly that pistol was no 100 yard gun!) Interesting pistol, but totally useless in my opinion.
I think such guns are "If you make it, they will buy it" propositons.
Bob Wright
I think such guns are "If you make it, they will buy it" propositons.
Bob Wright
My ding-a-ling is bigger than your ding-a-ling comes to mind.
GasGuzzler
Hawkeye
Don't want one in any cartridge. My opinion only matters to me.
freakindawgen
Blackhawk
I have 3 little ones. .22WMR, .22LR, .45 Colt only. 45 will take .410 but you need to take some off the rim or cut the counter bore bigger. However, it WILL chamber .454 Casull and .460 S&W.Dont get much rifling. 45 is an American Derringer. I want to say they are out of business but someone answered my email once.
Once was enough on the 45/70. Never again. A .50? Now we're being ridiculous..
powder smoke
Hawkeye
Ten Four I can feel the pain from here
They are very few firearms I have no willingness to fire. This is 1, I will gladly watch other people fire it.
When my dad was in the last few years of his life, he added a scoped 45-70 barrel to his contender collection. I had sighted in or helped him sight in many firearms.
He asked me to sight it in using factory 405gr bullets. I refused, mainly because I didn't want him elk hunting with it. Thats why he got it. I told him I would take him to the range, but he would need to sight it in. He never did, we shot .22lrs rifles at the range. His vision was terrible and had weakened strength. I knew he could not hold up any handgun and hit the side of a barn much less hit any big game.
When my dad was in the last few years of his life, he added a scoped 45-70 barrel to his contender collection. I had sighted in or helped him sight in many firearms.
He asked me to sight it in using factory 405gr bullets. I refused, mainly because I didn't want him elk hunting with it. Thats why he got it. I told him I would take him to the range, but he would need to sight it in. He never did, we shot .22lrs rifles at the range. His vision was terrible and had weakened strength. I knew he could not hold up any handgun and hit the side of a barn much less hit any big game.
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caryc
Hawkeye
Yeah, that's one of them fondlin' guns.
ex13F
Single-Sixer
I have the Snake Slayer 4 in the standard 45/410 but rarely shoot it. Bought it to see what they were like mainly.
Threespears
Buckeye
Tell more , what are they like
Would you recommend it
ex13F
Single-Sixer
As others have said they are a little on the heavy side but nearly indestructible. When I have actually carried it, I put those PDX 410 shells in it. The ones with the 3 copper aspirin tablets over some shot. If it is something you think you would use, I guess I would recommend it. If I had it to do over again and intended to actually carry something with 45LC/410 capabilities, I would probably go with one of the revolvers from Taurus or Smith. Just my opinion.
That is a bit more than I care to even try to handle. My stubby 357 is bad enough. I can only imagine what this monster's felt recoil is like.
Add to the list of "Hold my beer and watch this." Saw a video of a guy shooting one, his hand was bloody from a cut in the web between thumb and index finger, after 1 shot.
Yep. Always the competition. I will have to check my ding-a-ling size if I can remember where I left it............My ding-a-ling is bigger than your ding-a-ling comes to mind.
I've considered tying a string around mine so I can find and reach it, but I don't want to strangle it.
