Bizarre happening.................

Bob Wright

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Last night's newscast reported an accident on I-240 here in Memphis in which the car wreck victim was found shot. Police were puzzled by how to list the fatality, car wreck? or gun shot?

As reported in the morning's paper, a man was chasing his girl friend around I-240. At one point he showed her he was armed, sticking both arms out of the moon roof to show he was armed. He lost control and grabbed for the wheel and somehow managed to shoot himself, the gun in his lap as he fired, the bullet entering through his chin and passing through his head.

A bizarre world in which we live.

Bob Wright
 
Police were puzzled by how to list the fatality

Really? Sounds to me as if he blew his brains out before he crashed.
 
whichwatch said:
Police were puzzled by how to list the fatality

Really? Sounds to me as if he blew his brains out before he crashed.

That would be the logical conclusion, of course.

But then the legal system must work its course. Though his brains may have been splattered over the head lining of his vehicle, was he alive at time of impact? Or could he have been kept alive, brain dead or not, had it not been for the impact? Was he perhaps brain dead even before the bullet did its work?

All of these questions must be raised, and answered, before a verdict can be reached.

Bob Wright
 
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Interesting question.
I've known head-shot victims to linger in a coma for hours (or even days) before dieing, so it might be that he was dead before the crash, or that the crash itself killed him.
I'm sure that the ME will figger it out.

On a different but related note, my first thought was....Glock?

DGW
 
In simpler times, the verdict would have taken about 2 minutes.... "Yup, he's dead."

Today, we find it necessary to waste time and money on an "investigation", the outcome of which changes nothing.
 
wwb said:
In simpler times, the verdict would have taken about 2 minutes.... "Yup, he's dead."

Today, we find it necessary to waste time and money on an "investigation", the outcome of which changes nothing.
Yeah but it is good fodder for the crime/drama tv shows like CSI. ---- Similarities to real characters or events purely coincidental. :D
 
wwb said:
In simpler times, the verdict would have taken about 2 minutes.... "Yup, he's dead."

Today, we find it necessary to waste time and money on an "investigation", the outcome of which changes nothing.

Died of natural causes. If you blew your brains out, naturally, you would die!
 
It seems that we are continually hearing or reading more "bizarre" reports of people doing horrible things. More and more the story accompanies a statement of some sort that there most be a mental problem "for anyone to do that". Obviously there is a "mental" problem compared to most of us. But I wonder if we are not getting "the rest of the story" as a popular commentator used to say.

As I have mentioned here in the past, I was an LEO for 40+ years prior to my retirement. During those years I was directly and indirectly involved in investigations of close to 300 homicides/suicides and over a thousand fatal/serious injury auto wrecks. The situations of many, even most of those, created a question of the mental condition of the individuals involved. When the details were learned from investigation we often did learn a number of factors that seemed to be common in many of the cases, related to "mental condition".

Here in Colorado when investigating injury and fatal auto accidents, tests are conducted to determine the condition of the drivers, fatal or injured. A very large portion of the fatal/injury auto accidents involved drivers with alcohol content in their system. Also in those that I was involved with, up to 15 or more percent of the fatal drivers also tested positive with drugs, including a high proportion of them with Marijuana in their system, with and without alcohol combined. Marijuana was the most common drug found, of all drugs in those cases, perhaps for the reason that Marijuana "is not considered a dangerous drug" by its users, and more commonly used. Other drugs were also found involved in those accidents also, but Marijuana was the most common drug involved in auto accidents that were tested in our area over those years.

Those cases involving actual homicides/suicides that were especially "mental obvious" almost always involved a perpetrator who was high on drugs at the time of the incident, many times Meth, Heroin, Speed, etc., and often Marijuana, many times in combination. Even homicide/suicides that had other contributing reasons for other stresses, often involved alcohol and or drugs at the time of the incident.

In the past few years, after my retirement, I have often wondered how many of the "mental condition" of those who create horrific, "mental" crimes, including those that seem to get the most "political and or racial publicity", are not actually mentally deficient for the same reason the I used to find when I was on duty. Is it just not politically correct to cite drug use contributing to their "mental condition" today, or are we seeing mental cases committing crimes with drugs being the non reported culprit now while just calling it "Mental", and in some cases "racial"?

Obviously not all serious such cases involve drugs and or alcohol, but unless human nature has changed in my lifetime, I suspect that we are not getting "the rest of the story" in many of the almost daily news reports of the horrific incidents.

Not only auto and plane wrecks, but homicides with mothers killing babies and toddlers, spectacular suicides, "suicide by police" such as recent racial incidents, etc, surely have an explanation and I suspect that I have an idea of the explanation for many of them. Many I hear and read about today come close to matching those that I investigated when it was my job to do so in years past.

Just my thoughts and you all may have different points of view.
 
Well, today's Commercial Appeal has clarified the story. Due to the absence of a gunshot wound, the victim has been listed as a traffic fatality! It seems the gunshot wound to the chin was not a gunshot wound after all. Apparently the driver was killed by the impact.

Related this story to Nita this morning. Her comment?

"I liked the other way better."


Bob Wright
 
Bizarre ? A couple of days ago in Philly area, a man killed his wife using a chainsaw. Then committed suicide, with the chainsaw. Kinda makes using a sword look sissy-like ya know ? WOW. Think I could guess what his favorite movie was ?
 
I believe it relates to the overall spiritual condition of humanity which is increasingly dark. This is a medium like air or water and affects everyone.
 

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