What would you all recommend for food (preferably bbq) in/around Memphis area? Will be traveling through there and plan to spend a good part of the day in the area. Thanks.
Is that a clue in your last sentence?Bob Wright needs to chime in here, he's our resident Memphian and BBQ connoisseur. I have kids in Memphis and am there pretty often. Corkys is good, as is Central BBQ.. Bob can probably clue you on an off-grid place that he thinks is tops.
We will be in Texas the next day. Dallas and then Tyler.Well I would say, just stay hungry until you drive into Texas and have some real BBQ.
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Well I would say, just stay hungry until you drive into Texas and have some real BBQ.
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There is no real BBQ in Memphis. I am 75 miles East of there and there is a BBQ trailer on U S Highway 45 North that puts the Memphis crap to shame. Also much better BBQ in Jackson on I-40. 87 BBQ at exit 87.
On and Only on Germantown Parkway is the best in Memphis so to speak.
Enjoy the trip. And if I were honest, I would tell you there isn’t any good BBQ in Dallas. None that I can find anyway.We will be in Texas the next day. Dallas and then Tyler.
You are very misinformed. Sugary sweet sauce is for outsiders. Real Q requires no sauce at all...the proper rubs and the proper wood add in all the needed flavor. Mesquite is best (IMO). Homemade chili sauce (aka hot sauce for outsiders) is an acceptable condiment, but never required or expected. The chili sauce is generally served as a side when corn tortillas are being served with the Q. Makes excellent tacos.As to Texas BBQ, seems they all start with beef, them add some sugary sweet sauce. Best BBQ we found in Texas was at the old Southfork Wranch.
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You are very misinformed. Sugary sweet sauce is for outsiders. Real Q requires no sauce at all...the proper rubs and the proper wood add in all the needed flavor. Mesquite is best (IMO). Homemade chili sauce (aka hot sauce for outsiders) is an acceptable condiment, but never required or expected. The chili sauce is generally served as a side when corn tortillas are being served with the Q. Makes excellent tacos.
"Old Southfork Wranch" is actually "Southfork Ranch," a tourist trap launched in the late 1970s. Prior to being the "home" of the fictious Ewing clan, that property was owned by a member of Clint Murchison's (Dallas Cowboys) management team. Before that it was a farm...never a working ranch.
Sounds like you know your Barbecue! But I would be leery of your “chili” …. anyone that spells chile with a i doesn’t usually know what chile is. LOLYou are very misinformed. Sugary sweet sauce is for outsiders. Real Q requires no sauce at all...the proper rubs and the proper wood add in all the needed flavor. Mesquite is best (IMO). Homemade chili sauce (aka hot sauce for outsiders) is an acceptable condiment, but never required or expected. The chili sauce is generally served as a side when corn tortillas are being served with the Q. Makes excellent tacos.
"Old Southfork Wranch" is actually "Southfork Ranch," a tourist trap launched in the late 1970s. Prior to being the "home" of the fictious Ewing clan, that property was owned by a member of Clint Murchison's (Dallas Cowboys) management team. Before that it was a farm...never a working ranch.
There you go ….. you made my point in the type of chili/ chile you make or prefer. Don’t always judge a book by its cover as I have lived in Pittsburg TX for 4 months! I am native New Mexican, lived there over 60 years. And just in case you don’t know there is a huge difference between NM chile, Texas chili and Mexico chile. Mexico is predominantly made with jalapeños and Pablano peppers. Texas…. I haven’t figured it out yet! Seems like lots of tomatoes with beans (which Do Not belong in Chile)Webster's dictionary says the proper spelling for the spicy pepper is any one of the following: chili, chilli, chile. Webster's also says, "In case you're wondering, chili, chilli, and chile are all applicable in chili sauce—referring to a spiced tomato sauce made with red and green peppers."
So, some might spell the pepper chile, while the sauce would be spelled chili sauce - the condiment I described in my post.
[My grandmother told me that "chile" was more commonly a southern slang word, originally "child," used to describe a youngster. She called me that on a few occasions, mostly when I was about to receive an attitude adjustment with a switch.]
Of course, considering you're from Pittsburg (deep east Texas, almost to Louisiana, and influenced by Cajun culture) I'm not surprised at your take. Spanish-language spelling is generally "chile" and Texian spelling is either chile or chili, depending on which part of the state the speaker is from. West Texans? Chili. South Texans? Chile.
Of course, I'm only a 7th generation Texian, so what do I know.
Historically there was very little interaction between Texians/Texans/Tejanos and residents of New Mexico. Even after the eastern part of New Mexico became part of the Republic of Texas (1836) Texans rarely visited NM"s major cities. Hostile wasn't quite the term, but almost.
It follows, then, that Texas chili correspondingly was never influenced by things in New Mexico.
Texas chili may include various grades of beef (in chunks, no ground beef). Texas chili excludes chicken or pork (although on occasion, bits of pork are added for a special flavor). Chili NEVER includes beans. [Beans are to chili as hamburger helper is to meatloaf - something to reduce the meal's cost and degrade the flavor.] There are hundreds of varieties of chilis, and many of them are traditionally grown in the lower Rio Grande Valley (beginning just north-west of Brownsville).
Beginning in the 1970s, for many years I would spend 6 to 8 weeks per year in Albuquerque and Santa Fe, New Mexico. And before that my family vacationed in Red River/Taos for many years. The point is, I've eaten New Mexican style chile and other New Mexico-style Mexican foods many times. The food is distinctly New Mexican, and I sense an "Indian" spin on its ingredients and preparation. It is normally very spicy (some say hot). It is delicious.
And it is not TexMex.
But that's OK.
Who considers Nacogdoches "the oldest city in Texas 1779?" Historians don't. First, Texas history records that the Spanish founded a mission in Nacogdoches in 1716, not 1779 (French explorers founded it's twin, Natchitoches, LA, in 1714). Of course this is the oldest Anglo settlement, since the Nacogdoche tribe of the Caddo Indians had lived in Nacogdoches for at least 10,000 years.lol….. there was very little interaction between Texans and the early inhabitants of New Mexico because Texas wasn’t here!
Santa Fe was founded in1607
Nacogdoches is considered to be the oldest city in Texas 1779
LOLWho considers Nacogdoches "the oldest city in Texas 1779?" Historians don't. First, Texas history records that the Spanish founded a mission in Nacogdoches in 1716, not 1779 (French explorers founded it's twin, Natchitoches, LA, in 1714). Of course this is the oldest Anglo settlement, since the Nacogdoche tribe of the Caddo Indians had lived in Nacogdoches for at least 10,000 years.
But a full 180 years before the Spanish founded Nacogdoches, in 1535 Spanish explorer Cabeza de Vaca founded Presidio, Texas (located in the Texas Big Bend). At least that's what my Texas history classes taught me (in the 1950s when I was in grade school). Perhaps New Mexico history books have been subjected to revisionist history, eh?
You rightly point out that Texas wasn't "here." Texas/Mexico historical records report there were fewer than 5,000 non-Indians in Texas as of 1710, none of whom lived further north than San Antonio. Factually, Texas' unpredictable weather was the culprit. Various Indian tribes roamed North and Central Texas (Apache, Commanche and others) following the annual migration of buffalo herds from Kansas/Nebraska (in the summertime) down to northern Mexico in the winter. Texas was a "passthrough." Those Indians were hunter/gatherers - uninterested in farming Texas' fertile soils. Explorer Stephen F Austin noticed Texas agricultural prospects, motivating him to obtain permission from the Mexican government to colonize North Texas with farmers. And the rest is history.
Oh boy …. now you did it!!! He is going to let you have it with both barrels!!! lolJust for your information-there would not be a Texas if it were not for Tennessee.
The barbeque shop on Madison Ave. Small and plain. But delicious BBQ. Also memphis barbeque on Goodman rd. in southaven,ms. Right of i-55. Outstanding food imo.What would you all recommend for food (preferably bbq) in/around Memphis area? Will be traveling through there and plan to spend a good part of the day in the area. Thanks.