Article on Ivory and substitutes
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Thumbcocker
Blackhawk
I have seen a few pics of Mammoth ivory. No issue about endangered critters with that.
RSIno1
Hunter
I have a lot of pieces made from Mammoth and Walrus ivory that my parents bought in Alaska while stationed there in WWII. My sister wanted to take it to an Antiques Roadshow but when I told her of CA ivory laws she decided against it. There is always that one guy who knows everything even though he's never read the law and the stuff isn't for sale.
a new law banning the sale of nearly all ivory in the state of California is effective as of July 1, 2016. The ban, which can be found in California Fish and Game Code, section 2022, encompasses teeth and tusks of elephant, hippopotamus, mammoth, mastodon, walrus, warthog, whale and narwhal, as well as rhinoceros horn, regardless of whether it is raw, worked or powdered, or from a store or a private collection. Under the law, advertising the sale of any items containing ivory is also strictly prohibited.
a new law banning the sale of nearly all ivory in the state of California is effective as of July 1, 2016. The ban, which can be found in California Fish and Game Code, section 2022, encompasses teeth and tusks of elephant, hippopotamus, mammoth, mastodon, walrus, warthog, whale and narwhal, as well as rhinoceros horn, regardless of whether it is raw, worked or powdered, or from a store or a private collection. Under the law, advertising the sale of any items containing ivory is also strictly prohibited.
Thumbcocker said:
Problem is that some states lump in Mammoth ivory into their bans on elephant and other ivories. Even though Mammoths are not endangered, (been gone for 10,000 years or so) they say it needs banned too or unscrupulous sellers will say Elephant Ivory is Mammoth. Never mind that it's possible to tell them apart with a little education.
Danjet, I too saw that posting on 'that other forum'. They discussed the faux ivory sold at guitar parts and more dot com. I don't post on that forum so I didn't respond re: guitar parts, but, I will post here. This is their product; I made a set for my SA 1911. I'm no artist, but this stuff is easy to work with and polish-up on my drill press with a cloth wheel and jewelers rouge. They discussed the schreger lines which I think you can see in my poor photos.
One of the things that I thought was missing from the info is the fact that real ivory will shrink with age. Unless it is truly aged before fitting, the grips will eventually shrink a bit and show some grip frame material around the edges. I had a set do this, that's how I found out. p.s. I also have a .38Super barrel that I use in this 1911.
FYI,
J.
One of the things that I thought was missing from the info is the fact that real ivory will shrink with age. Unless it is truly aged before fitting, the grips will eventually shrink a bit and show some grip frame material around the edges. I had a set do this, that's how I found out. p.s. I also have a .38Super barrel that I use in this 1911.
FYI,
J.
caryc
Hawkeye
Johnnu2 said:Danjet, I too saw that posting on 'that other forum'. They discussed the faux ivory sold at guitar parts and more dot com. I don't post on that forum so I didn't respond re: guitar parts, but, I will post here. This is their product; I made a set for my SA 1911. I'm no artist, but this stuff is easy to work with and polish-up on my drill press with a cloth wheel and jewelers rouge. They discussed the schreger lines which I think you can see in my poor photos.
One of the things that I thought was missing from the info is the fact that real ivory will shrink with age. Unless it is truly aged before fitting, the grips will eventually shrink a bit and show some grip frame material around the edges. I had a set do this, that's how I found out. p.s. I also have a .38Super barrel that I use in this 1911.
FYI,
J.
Shrinking ivory is why some people stabilize it. But, you must stabilize the material "before" making a pair of grips with it.
DeletedMember275
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Mammoth ivory grips are pretty popular among owners of custom 1911 pistols. It seems to start at around $400+ for a set of grips, and can be amazingly beautiful and colorful. Scott Kolar makes some truly nice grips from it.
AS USUAL......Minnesota passed a full blown law making it illeagel to buy,sell, transfer ivory and other horn products............unless properly documented...........too many north ended horses in the south bound legislature lanes...... 
toysoldier
Hunter
I would rather see ivory in a living elephant than chopped up to use on vanity items.
