I'm glad I had a sizable stock of ammo for all of my handguns, but even with only occasional range visits, and primarily shooting 22's, I am getting to the point of not wanting to shoot up any more of my now limited amounts of 9mm, 40S&W, 45acp. I still have a fair amount (for me) of 38 Special and the aforementioned 22LR. My local gun shops have nothing, or at least nothing that I shoot. MidwayUSA shows virtually everything still Out of Stock. This is starting to get to be serious problem. Any word on anything that would lead us to believe that things will be getting back to normal anytime soon?
Anything new on the ammo shortage?
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I posted this in the reloading section, but a gun store here in Dallas has as much 223 as you can afford, somewhat normally priced ($17 for 20 rounds). It's steel cased Wolf though.
Another gun store in town is stocking their ammo shelves with Black Rifle Coffee beans. They literally only have shotgun ammo. And this is a BIG gun store.
Another gun store in town is stocking their ammo shelves with Black Rifle Coffee beans. They literally only have shotgun ammo. And this is a BIG gun store.
daveg.inkc
Hunter
I called Natchez SS a few days ago. They had 4 8lb kegs of 2400 that sold in a few hours. Negative on everything else I asked for.
Sportsman's warehouse in the Portland area was reported to have multiple pallets of primers on wednesday with normal prices and a limit of 1 brick or 10 different boxes. I could not drop and run so notified 4-5 friends that might be in the area. One friend had his retired dad drop what he was doing and run there in a hurry. All that was left was large rifle, so he grabbed a brick hoping for future trading. The friend that had alerted me was able to walk out with a brick of small pistol while it was in mid frenzy.
I have been picking up my limit of 2 boxes of 9mm or 45acp here and there and have also managed to run across a few decent selection of powders. I load my own so just buying for friends and family on short supply. It is just a mater of lucky timing---simply being in the right store on the right day.
I have been picking up my limit of 2 boxes of 9mm or 45acp here and there and have also managed to run across a few decent selection of powders. I load my own so just buying for friends and family on short supply. It is just a mater of lucky timing---simply being in the right store on the right day.
Today, I was at Sportsmans for a different purpose. Figured I would walk down the ammo isle and see what might be there. To my surprise they had numerous boxes of personal defense .380, 9mm and .45 Auto. My wife was with me, so I grabbed 2 boxes each of the .380 and .45 Auto. Anyway, very rarely do I see it available. That includes rifle ammo.
Dave
Dave
Ya talk about a shortage & you might have 10 posters commence to tell you how they found this or that where they live.
But nationwide there is a shortage of not just the obvious of 9mm & 223, but across the board. Weird stuff like 20 ga. shotshells or 30-30's.
If the new administration starts early with gun & ammo control talk, this shortage will last 4 years. If it fizzles out, inventories "might" catch up. This the only optimism I would dare to offer. Strap in & pull down your goggles, we're are in for a ride.
But nationwide there is a shortage of not just the obvious of 9mm & 223, but across the board. Weird stuff like 20 ga. shotshells or 30-30's.
If the new administration starts early with gun & ammo control talk, this shortage will last 4 years. If it fizzles out, inventories "might" catch up. This the only optimism I would dare to offer. Strap in & pull down your goggles, we're are in for a ride.
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First, you are right about the 10 posters saying their local gun store has ammo for sale. But, the one big thing I can think of about politics getting in the way of blocking ammunition and guns are jobs. Right now, unemployment is really high. What thinking individual will axe, on purpose, a whole sector of the economy? There are just bigger fish to fry right now. How many people depend upon their job to make and sell not only ammunition, but firearms as well? Nobody is going to send all those people to the unemployment line. That would be political suicide.
This is just my humble opinion of course, and remember, this happened 4 years ago and will happen again in another 4 years. I would bet by this summer, we will start to see a lot more ammunition and guns back on the shelves.
Kevin said:
That would be a reasonable assumption for someone that is looking to continue in politics. If you've been there 47 years and ready to go out to pasture AND could give two craps about U.S. citizens then it makes perfect sense.
Back to original topic
Owner of a LGS said he was told CCI has locked up an exclusive contract for 18 months with Federal for all the primers they can make. Zero to go anywhere but Federal. He went further to say CCI laid off most of the shipping dept since it was going in bulk packaging to one customer. fact or fiction? Who knows? I do believe this shortage is going last much longer than .22 shortage a few years back.
The Norseman
Blackhawk
Winchester came out with the 6.8 Western.
That's good News right? New Ammo, new Components, new Rifles,
and Browning is in on it too!
That's good News right? New Ammo, new Components, new Rifles,
and Browning is in on it too!
What I have seen and heard while talking to friends here in ID and back in Portland. Guys are daily making the rounds to all retail outlets of ammo, reloading supplies and just buying what ever they find on the shelfs.
On IDs local web guys are selling gun powder for up to 100 bucks a lb. Primers per 1,000 the same and .22lr 75 to 100 for 500 rds.
Last week I was in Baker city Or. to check out a small shop that had ammo. Bi mart there had 1 can of imr 4227 for 32.99. I do not need it now, maybe next year I will, but I bought it. Salesman said gun powder just arrived, I got the last can 3 hours after they opened.
Guys are selling that imr 4227 on the web for 50 a lb. I wonder why they bought it and how much they recently paid for it.
I did get the bullets I wanted at the normal price and the last 8 box's of .40 S&W ammo they had. Not for me, but 2 friends who were at zero in their .40 ammo.
Store owner said he is inline to get primers end of March.
On IDs local web guys are selling gun powder for up to 100 bucks a lb. Primers per 1,000 the same and .22lr 75 to 100 for 500 rds.
Last week I was in Baker city Or. to check out a small shop that had ammo. Bi mart there had 1 can of imr 4227 for 32.99. I do not need it now, maybe next year I will, but I bought it. Salesman said gun powder just arrived, I got the last can 3 hours after they opened.
Guys are selling that imr 4227 on the web for 50 a lb. I wonder why they bought it and how much they recently paid for it.
I did get the bullets I wanted at the normal price and the last 8 box's of .40 S&W ammo they had. Not for me, but 2 friends who were at zero in their .40 ammo.
Store owner said he is inline to get primers end of March.
I was in a shop earlier in the week and the guy had just got off the phone with CCI. They told him they were a year and 10 months backordered on ammo and were NOT selling primers or any reloading components. Not to mention they are no longer taking orders. That means if you run into some components don't sell them, trade for what you need. I doubt there positions are any different than anyone elses. What's coming, you will need a license from the government to buy ammo. Thanks to the jerks that voted Biden. It's going to just get worse from here. I don't see it getting any better for 3-4 years and maybe not even then. Forget about making a quick buck, what ever you can get your hands on, hang on to it and trade for what you need.
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" But, the one big thing I can think of about politics getting in the way of blocking ammunition and guns are jobs. Right now, unemployment is really high. What thinking individual will axe, on purpose, a whole sector of the economy? There are just bigger fish to fry right now. How many people depend upon their job to make and sell not only ammunition, but firearms as well? Nobody is going to send all those people to the unemployment line. That would be political suicide."
Look at all the jobs he killed the first day with the ex orders on the Keystone & the wall. He doesn't care if he destroys lives, businesses,, or creates unemployment.
Look at all the jobs he killed the first day with the ex orders on the Keystone & the wall. He doesn't care if he destroys lives, businesses,, or creates unemployment.
I also don't think he cares one bit about eliminating jobs if it pleases his leftist minions.
Timber, lumber, paper, jobs gone out West, while satisfying the leftist agenda. And they don't care.
Timber, lumber, paper, jobs gone out West, while satisfying the leftist agenda. And they don't care.
Pat-inCO
Hawkeye
I hope I do not offend anyone, but if YOU are not a "new" gun person, WHY THE
(BLEEP) do you NOT already have an adequate supply?
This "stuff" has been going on since just after RR left office. :shock:
(BLEEP) do you NOT already have an adequate supply?
This "stuff" has been going on since just after RR left office. :shock:
They have been trying for years to take our guns away from us but cant seem to get it done, So take the Ammo away that leaves us with a hunk of Iron and a pice of wood.
Also has anybody notice what has happened to the so called defender of our guns the NRA? Perfect timing course I never saw that they did much for us anyway.
Also has anybody notice what has happened to the so called defender of our guns the NRA? Perfect timing course I never saw that they did much for us anyway.
Pat-inCO said:
Agreed 100%.
There is a big gun show in downtown Dallas this weekend. I don’t plan on going, but would love to, just to see if there is any price gouging going on. $100+ per 1,000 primers is definitely price gouging.
Pat-inCO said:
Can never have enough. And supplies do get used. (oh, and I foolishly started shooting a new caliber)
Kevin said:
Capitalists typically call that supply and demand. I paid $110 for a 1,000 pack of small pistol primers. I know that dealers feel badly about that (or at least this one) said he is paying 3X what they've had to pay in the past. Very few components are getting into the market these days. Maybe the option is every body (even those with more than enough) just hang on to them. Everything has a price. Even stuff you don't care to sell. Offer them enough and they may sell them. Question is, do you need them or not. If you don't need them, no big deal. If you do, now is the time to buy, because later on they will be higher. If you think these prices are bad, wait a year and see what they cost. Personally, I think it's going to get a lot worse.
I've had several guys call looking for ammo. I just pass along where I saw ammo in the past 3-4 months but honestly doubt anything is left in those stores. A dear old friend called a few weeks back asking if I had a spare 9mm and/or AR. It's legal for me to sell him firearms FTF so I told him to drive up and we'd find something he liked. Then the ammo supply dried up. Even if he gets something from me, he can't find ammo at less than OMG pricing so I'll have to include ammo in the deal. I'm pretty sure this friend has no idea of how much 200 rounds of ammo is actually worth these days.
Colonialgirl
Hawkeye
WAYNO said:
:roll:
They HAD to leave the Timber to fuel those giant forest fires !!
:lol: :wink: :mrgreen:
foxtrapper
Blackhawk
Hard to get ammo and components so folks that have a stash are reluctant to shoot up what they have. This is not intended for the lucky folks who can shoot off the back porch, but us public range guys. How long do you think it will take for the politicians to repurpose the now little used ranges? Pesky second amendment makes it difficult to ban guns! So scare folks into hoarding so there’s no ammo available ,shut down ranges do to lack of use , so there’s no place to shoot. Young folks won’t be exposed to shooting and the older generation dies out.
I just ordered a new .22 air rifle for "pest control" just to save on actual .22 ammo.
And have been looking at these no ammo required training systems:
https://mantisx.com/
https://www.concealedcarry.com/gear/comparing-dry-fire-guns-the-best-tool-for-at-home-practice/
https://www.breachbangclear.com/at-home-firearms-training-tools/
And have been looking at these no ammo required training systems:
https://mantisx.com/
https://www.concealedcarry.com/gear/comparing-dry-fire-guns-the-best-tool-for-at-home-practice/
https://www.breachbangclear.com/at-home-firearms-training-tools/
I was listening to the news yesterday. An interesting comment I heard was the likend Biden to Jimmy Carter. I thought that was interesting. We know that Jimmy didn't have a brain in his head and did a world of harm to this country. Well old Joe is in the same shape. I think it's one of the most accurate observations in months. That being the case I would say, that if you have a high interest rate on your mortgage take care of it now. I bought a house back in the 80's when Carter was president and the devalued currency and the double digit interest rates hurt everyone. They don't care. Get the best fixed interest rate you can for the shortest term and get your house paid off if you haven't. Be careful with your money. Be a good employee. Biden as president and even worse Kamala, will be a far bigger disaster than the covid.
NikA
Hunter
At 100$/1000, it's worth my time to figure out of there are alternatives or recharging methods I can use for primers. Of course, I'll use up the ones I have on the shelf now and hope to restock before it comes to that. On the plus side, I have a large coffee can full of spent primers that I can use to get me started.
I previously thought having 10k primers was excessive for the amount I shoot. I now think I'd like a couple sleeves per size when stability returns to the market.
I previously thought having 10k primers was excessive for the amount I shoot. I now think I'd like a couple sleeves per size when stability returns to the market.
daveg.inkc
Hunter
I found primers, Federal Match for large pistol today. $6.00 /100. Also .270 bullets, Hornady. .452” FTX’s, too. Could not find any powder that I load. Looking for IMR 4166 for 5.56. Last time out, found a tight grouping 4166 with 52 hpbt.
