Skalkaho Slim
Blackhawk
Curious to know if anyone is actually carrying their SR1911.
Anyone actually carrying their SR1911
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While I'm sure that some will say yes ... in today's day and age, even I'm the first one to say that it's probably not the best choice for carry ... and I carried one for about ten straight years many a moon ago.
Too big, too heavy, too much liability, too little capacity ... there are far better choices in today's modern carry weapons.
For open carry in the field ... great .... for concealed carry ... not so great.
REV
Too big, too heavy, too much liability, too little capacity ... there are far better choices in today's modern carry weapons.
For open carry in the field ... great .... for concealed carry ... not so great.
REV
Yes, and I love it. With the PROPER HOLSTER, and GUN BELT, it is very comfortable and easy to conceal with the right clothing. There's plenty of capacity for self defense, and the single stack design makes the magazines easy to carry and conceal also. Of course it helps to be 6'2", and 240lbs. also. I hardly even know it's there. Just for the record I carry OWB holster strong-side @ 3 o'clock. The best way is to try it for yourself.
toolman II
Bearcat
Revhigh, Given that the 1911 is such a nice range gun and therefore, since some people might have huge hours invested in the safe handling and accurate shooting with one, wouldn't you say that the "comfort level" some people have with that format would make it a good choice for CCW. I realize the question referenced the full size Ruger, but other brands offer lighter and smaller versions. I am only a revolver guy at this point, so I have no experience with 1911's. (As a lefty, I could be very tempted with an ambi-safety model.) I am familiar with the notion that a "touchy single action trigger" might not be the best in a high stress situation, but I wondered if those with allot of experience would feel that the light trigger is not a problem.
toolman II said:
Some good points TMII. I've been shooting and collecting 1911's for 30+ years, I've carried them for more than a decade. It's my FAVORITE semi-auto platform. I LOVE 1911's. I was integral in getting this section of the forum started. Having said all that nice stuff ... I STILL maintain that there are far better choices for carry than a 1911. I'm so comfortable with 1911 functionality and shooting that when I buy OTHER semis, I generally like them to be similar to 1911's ... like the CZ75.
HOWEVER ... as I said in my initial post ... there are simply too many other guns with better features FOR CARRY that makes it impossible for me to carry one anymore. To say NOTHING of liability.
Why do you think that most LEO's are forbidden to carry them anymore ? There were simply too many accidental shootings when holding someone at gunpoint with that type of trigger. The slightest twitch and the gun can fire. For range or for military combat situations ... I'd pick one with ease ... for carry .... not in today's litigious society. No way.
I feel even more strongly given the amount of training and experience carrying guns that most CCW holders have. Most ... OK ... many ... CCW holders get a license, go buy an SR9C or equivalent, and then come on here asking what kind of +P+ ammo to buy for it. If you don't know what kind of ammo to use in your carry gun ... quite frankly ... you shouldn't be carrying it. Can you just imagine what would happen if one of these newly minted CCW mall ninjas with the +P+++ super hydrashock mega ammo started shooting a single action 1911 in a crowded place with a few hundred total rounds under their belt ? Not that that kind of person would be better off with any other gun ... probably better off with a 1911 than a 17 round Glock .40 caliber. Less rounds to make mistakes with.
As soon as somebody starts asking about + ANYTHING I just roll my eyes, because if they have to ASK about that ... they clearly don't understand very much about shooting or carrying a gun. These are the types of guys that go around bragging that they're carrying and want to show all their friends their gun, and always talk about only using +P+++ or whatever ammo. I'd rather have a well-placed .22 round than a +P+++ ANYTHING. Do you want these guys walking around with a 1911 in Condition One ?
Sure ... there are plenty of people that can carry a 1911 safely, but in my opinion ... even they're better off carrying a Glock or equivalent. For the liability issue alone.
Hey !! If you want to carry ANY 1911 ... be my guest. These are just my opinions thrown out on an internet forum. :D
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Verndog
Blackhawk
revhigh said:
You mean like the LC9?? I read that little firestorm a while back. :twisted: :D :twisted:
Nakanokalronin
Single-Sixer
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I carry a 1911 but it's either a Kimber Ultra Carry II or RIA Compact. This is my choice until Ruger comes out with one of their own Officer/Defender size 1911. :wink:
RICHGCOOP
Single-Sixer
I don't have a 1911 yet. When I do I wount carry it.
But I think a 1911 cocked & locked is a LOT safer then a Glock ant day!!!!! My $.02
RICHGCOOP
But I think a 1911 cocked & locked is a LOT safer then a Glock ant day!!!!! My $.02
RICHGCOOP
RICHGCOOP
Single-Sixer
Revhigh, Yes I have shoor a lot of 1911.
If you want a light triger, Try my BH 44mag 10" barrel it has a 1# .010" pull. Now that is light.
RICHGCOOP
If you want a light triger, Try my BH 44mag 10" barrel it has a 1# .010" pull. Now that is light.
RICHGCOOP
RICHGCOOP
Single-Sixer
The Ruger BH 44 is target ONLY.
RICHGCOOP
RICHGCOOP
Ruger Packer
Buckeye
Have a retired big city LEO where I attend church. We were talking carry weapons one day, he much prefers 1911 cocked and locked than the Glock issue weapon he had to carry, and that the majority of his fellow officers felt the same way. Said the Glock trigger made him uneasy. Now that he is retired, he does carry concealed every where he goes. FWIW...
Ruger Packer
Buckeye
What I thought was funny... he was offered the Glock upon retirement for a good price (he didn't say how much), he told 'em to "keep the POS". :lol:
Before the Glock he said the department had the Beretta 96 (?), .40 S&W. He said that he'd rather have had the Beretta than the Glock.
Before the Glock he said the department had the Beretta 96 (?), .40 S&W. He said that he'd rather have had the Beretta than the Glock.
mattsbox99
Hunter
Pretty hard to have an AD/ND on a cocked and locked 1911, pretty easy on a 'wonder9'.
I occasionally carry mine.
I occasionally carry mine.
Pretty easy on a COCKED 1911 .... which is the condition it would be in if you were using it to defend your life or hold someone at gunpoint .... which is why they're generally NOT ALLOWED to be carried by LEO's. Sure ... some LEO's are allowed to carry whatever they want ... but the vast, vast majority carry Glocks or some other DA/SA pistol ... the reason ???? Liability.
Right ... pretty easy to have an AD/ND on a wonder 9 with a 6+ pound trigger pull and a 3/4 inch trigger movement ... much easier than a 3-4 pound 1911 trigger with a 1/16 inch pull ...
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Right ... pretty easy to have an AD/ND on a wonder 9 with a 6+ pound trigger pull and a 3/4 inch trigger movement ... much easier than a 3-4 pound 1911 trigger with a 1/16 inch pull ...
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Ruger Packer
Buckeye
revhigh said:
So says our "expert"......
Ruger Packer said:
I guess by your comment you disagree RP ... which is great ... but as usual ... you do it with personal sniping from the sidelines ... with no credible alternate opinion to offer or discuss. With your deep 1911 experience I'd think you'd have an opinion .... but alas it's not to be ... our loss I guess ... :roll:
REV
There is a large number of departments that have begun making the 1911 platform an optional carry weapon. LAPD has for years had it for SWAT and special operations, and has recently allowed it for line cops with the proper training. I carried one for years before my currant employer and am counting the days until I can retire and begin carrying one again.
mattsbox99
Hunter
revhigh said:
Where is the safety on Glock? There have been quite a few issues with Glocks and thumbsnap holsters.
Most departments carry Glocks because they are dirt cheap, LE can get them for around $300 so its an easy choice when the bean counters make the choices.
Agreed ... cost is always a factor and Glock makes it easy.
I'm all for carrying 1911's if you want to, but that rarely works in the real world where there's budgets and lawyers involved.
I would hate to be involved in a shooting with a modified 1911 if there was anything questionable involved.
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I'm all for carrying 1911's if you want to, but that rarely works in the real world where there's budgets and lawyers involved.
I would hate to be involved in a shooting with a modified 1911 if there was anything questionable involved.
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ArmedinAZ
Buckeye
Is this derailed discussion about how safe or unsafe a holstered, condition 1 1911 is compared to a Glock holstered or is it about the possibility of a negligent discharge because of the lighter and short travel trigger compared to the relatively long pull of a striker fired weapon when the weapon is drawn in a high stress situation?
There must be a reason for the "New York trigger" available from Glock that increases the pull to 11 lbs for LE use.
There must be a reason for the "New York trigger" available from Glock that increases the pull to 11 lbs for LE use.
ArmedinAZ said:
Uh ...yeah ... and the ONLY reason is ... LIABILITY ... but a few here will deny that till the bitter end just to be obstinate ... claiming that a 3-4 lb and 1/16 inch pull is somehow safer and less accident prone.
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revhigh said:
The problem with the New York trigger on the Glock is that it makes it harder to shoot accurately under stress then a normal trigger. The problem is training. Keep your friggin finger off the trigger till your ready to engage. Making the actual firing more difficult adds to rounds missing the intended target. Train better and more often. Instead we make it harder to make accurate shots and call this safer.
We have the New York Plus trigger mandated at my employer. What a great concept.
Ethang said:
Sounds good until you're into an adrenaline soaked and panic situation .... no one is prepared for that until it happens, and no amount of formal training is able to prepare you for it. Many cops aren't gun people ... they only carry them because they HAVE to. A nervous and panic stricken cop or civillian is no one that should be holding a 3 pound 1/16 inch trigger pull 1911 ... and that is EXACTLY why most municipalities don't allow their LEO's to carry 1911's.
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Skalkaho Slim
Blackhawk
I dunno man..........ArmedinAZ said:
I thought I simply asked if anyone was carrying their SR1911. :roll:
I've carried full size 1911's for years and have shot them extensively in IDPA and USPSA. Was really just curious to know, ya know.
