Air rifles

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Look carefully before you buy. Was looking at the "Shop Ruger" site and noticed an air rifle. The Umarex Torq .22 DEB. http://shopruger.com/Umarex-Torq-22-DEB/productinfo/17816/ Notice the price. I noticed it didn't give muzzle velocity so I thought I would 'do a search' and possibly find the answer. I searched for "Umarex-Torq-22-DEB" and found this site: https://www.umarexusa.com/pellet-rifles#/pageSize=24&orderBy=0&pageNumber=3
Second row, second rifle. Notice the price. Guess where I won't be buying from?
 
Fox Mike said:
Notice the price.
Guess where I won't be buying from?
https://www.airgundepot.com/umarex-torq-air-rifle-combo.html

The Amazon reviews are not very complimentary.

I have an RWS side cock that is amazing. Three shots at 45 feet, target
was on the side of . . two . . stacks of a Sunday Rocky Mountain News
(that was really thick), backed up with a 1/4 inch plywood. The third shot
went through the plywood and lodged itself in the 2x4 support.
 
I also have an RWS side cock that can be amazingly accurate. It seems to like good heavy for caliber .22 pellets best. I bought mine as refurbished for a pretty good discount. The side cock rifles are a little heavier than the barrel cockers. Mine is no lightweight with a wood stock.
 
In Illinois (and maybe other places??) a FFL transfer is required for air guns with over 800 fps. Anyway .... I know that some you can't just pick off the shelf and take home.
 
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hittman said:
In Illinois (and maybe other places??) a FFL transfer is required for air guns with over 800 fps. Anyway .... I know that some you can't just pick off the shelf and take home.

Not that way around here - sounds kinda nuts to me.

What do they say when you take it to the counter.."You'll shoot your eye out kid?"

(sorry but just had to say it) :P
 
gramps said:
Interesting, because Ruger air rifles on airgun sites are well thought of. Pyramidair.com
gramps


I know that I'm happily satisfied with the .177 Ruger AirHawk I picked up "on sale/price reduced" @ BassPro several years ago.

I sold off the included 4x scope that came with it (which made it dirt cheap), and have lived happily ever after with the issue fiber-optic open sights.


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I almost bought a Benjamin Marauder pneumatic .22 air rifle a year or 2 ago. Once I put a really serious scope on it it would have run well over $1k. I like it because it's quiet, and deadly accurate!

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Benjamin_Marauder_Air_Rifle/1774#9238

I've seen videos of men taking out pigs with the pneumatic's, but not some limp wrist .22 cal. :)
 
I have a nice Mendoza .22 barrel-cocker that's powerful and accurate enough to take squirrels at 20 yards.
 
Bear Paw Jack said:
I've still got an old Benjamin, that you pump up. They just keep on going. It's a 5mm.

I hear they have some "heavier" air guns that you use scuba tanks to air them up. They can take out a pig.
I HAD a Benjamin pump. Great gun. I won't get into why I no longer have it other than to say it was nothing I did. That gun, pumped enough and shooting .22 pellets, would go through one side of an nail keg.
 
Fox Mike said:
Bear Paw Jack said:
I've still got an old Benjamin, that you pump up. They just keep on going. It's a 5mm.
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I HAD a Benjamin pump. Great gun. I won't get into why I no longer have it other than to say it was nothing I did. That gun, pumped enough and shooting .22 pellets, would go through one side of an nail keg.

You betcha! :mrgreen:
 
Hi,

I looked at some Ruger branded air rifles in the $125 range at Bass Pro not long after they came out. I'll be polite and say they looked really rough compared to the nice German rifles, and even a couple of "better" grade Gamos I'd shot. It looks like they've expanded the range. Are they better quality than they looked like to me?

My ol' Benjamin .22 pump had to be rebuilt once, but is still going strong after about 55 years... I can't count how many rabbits, ground squirrels and English sparrows it's taken, along with some gophers, a couple of possums, a skunk and a rattlesnake or two.

Rick C
 
Bear Paw Jack said:
I've still got an old Benjamin, that you pump up. They just keep on going. It's a 5mm.

I hear they have some "heavier" air guns that you use scuba tanks to air them up. They can take out a pig.

Bingo! Pay attention you want an air rifle Benjamin is the only way to go! end of story.
I recommend the Blue streak! Sheriden use to be the maker I believe Crossman may
be the parent company but not 100% sure. They changer hands some time ago! Top of the line! ps
 
My dad had a Benjamin pump BB gun I learned to shoot with when I was a kid. I now have a RWS Diana 48 side cocker springer from about 1988 with I believe the T01 trigger. It is .177, works good on vermin. What I like about side cockers is no worry about the barrel not always locking up inline with the scope.
 
I have a Ruger Blackhawk Elite,, made by Umarex. .177 cal. Advertised 1200 fps. I have chronographed it, it varies on type of pellet. Umarex made my Colt Goldcup 1911 .22. This air rifle is accurate enough to hit golf balls at 50 yards, and orange clay birds, until every piece is gone!
 
I love my air guns but they don't get the use they should. That's going to change this year. Diana 34 in .177 with Hawke scope, Benjamin pneumatic in .177, Crossman pneumatic in .22 and an English Webley Stingray in .22. I always worry about humidity and rust. Kinda silly I know. That's why it is changing this year. Don.
 
I've shot .177 air guns for many years, for "fun", and taking out pests like possums, coons, etc. They fill a "niche".

Recently added a Hatsan break barrel in .30 caliber. Shoots a BIG ol' pellet! I chronoed the 44.75 gr pellets at 540 - 560 fps. Expect it to roll 'coons over! Mounted an Optima (sold by Hatsan) 3x9 variable air gun scope on it, and it is in a Turkish walnut stock that is heavy, with an nice adjustable cheek piece.

Air Force guns out of Fort Worth, Texas, has a .45 caliber PCP air gun - The Texan model - that they have videos of whacking hogs with. There are "pellets" available of 350 - 400 grs that shoot at close to 1000 fps! This is VERY close to what I get from my suppressed .44 mag with sub sonic loads - I use 335 gr hard cast lead bullets at a bit under 1000 fps, and they kill hogs real dead! Thinking I need one of those .45 caliber air guns to "compliment" my suppressed .44 hog gun? These guns are also repeaters that fire 5 or more shots from an air fill.

Mike Holmes
 
mikewriter said:
I've shot .177 air guns for many years, for "fun", and taking out pests like possums, coons, etc. They fill a "niche".

Recently added a Hatsan break barrel in .30 caliber. Shoots a BIG ol' pellet! I chronoed the 44.75 gr pellets at 540 - 560 fps. Expect it to roll 'coons over! Mounted an Optima (sold by Hatsan) 3x9 variable air gun scope on it, and it is in a Turkish walnut stock that is heavy, with an nice adjustable cheek piece.

Air Force guns out of Fort Worth, Texas, has a .45 caliber PCP air gun - The Texan model - that they have videos of whacking hogs with. There are "pellets" available of 350 - 400 grs that shoot at close to 1000 fps! This is VERY close to what I get from my suppressed .44 mag with sub sonic loads - I use 335 gr hard cast lead bullets at a bit under 1000 fps, and they kill hogs real dead! Thinking I need one of those .45 caliber air guns to "compliment" my suppressed .44 hog gun? These guns are also repeaters that fire 5 or more shots from an air fill.

Mike Holmes

Yeah I have one of those .30 cal Hatsan beast too. It will definitely buildup your arm muscles
after shooting a few rounds with 60 lbs. of cocking pressure.
I love the thunk those 50 gr. pellets make when they hit!
Also have the slightly tamer .25 cal Sniper.
 
Air rifles go back a long way. Louis and Clark on their cross country expedition in early 1800's had and used a powerful air rifle that was not only successful getting game but vigorously impressed the Indians.
 
Mus408 said:
It will definitely buildup your arm muscles...

Funny you'd say that. I had my shoulder and bicep muscle reconstructed two years ago. Mostly, I figure I've healed well, but in pumping an airgun, my repaired biceps cramps up to the point I have to stop. :wink:
 
WAYNO said:
Mus408 said:
It will definitely buildup your arm muscles...

Funny you'd say that. I had my shoulder and bicep muscle reconstructed two years ago. Mostly, I figure I've healed well, but in pumping an airgun, my repaired biceps cramps up to the point I have to stop. :wink:

Maybe make a switch over to PCP airguns. A little pricey, but if you get an airtank and have somewhere to get it filled you will have all the power you need. People have taken bears/deer/hogs with them.
 
I have 5 air guns:
---A $15 (new) unmarked Chinese under-barrel cocker in .177 that might be accurate if I could put better sights on it. Seems to have good velocity.
---A Webley Vulcan .22 barrel-cocker that I got at an auction for $110. Plastic rear sight was broken off, so I mounted a NcSTAR reflex sight, with good results. I call it my 'six-biscuit' gun, as I put a pellet through the bottom of a can of refrigerator biscuits and six of the biscuits.
---An IMC Pioneer 3 4.5mm barrel-cocker that cost me $7 at auction. I think this is a Chinese copy of a Romanian rifle that somewhat mimics the shape of an odd SMG. Not accurate or powerful, more like a Red Rider BB gun.
---Crossman MkI and MkII pistols. These are .177 and .22 CO2 lookalikes for the Ruger Standard .22. Very accurate, with excellent triggers.
 
Here is a fact. Lewis and Clark had a .46 caliber air rifle in 1803. Girandoni, Austrian made. Missouri Conservation’s monthly publication had an article on this few years ago. Lewis and Clark trail is North of me a few miles. Makes a person think, when I see markers on roads around here. Everytime I cross Missouri River, I think of pioneers having to cross.
 
I didn’t see your post Rancher Will. Interesting part of our history. Fort Osage, on the bluffs of Missouri River, was established by Capt William Clark, 1808.
 
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