Adapting to the cold(?)

[Pat-inCO]

For any that have or are living in areas that regularly have temp's
below freezing, the considerations to keep your house comfortable and
the water flowing are a given. Here in the oven (Phoenix basin of AZ)
you have special considerations for dealing with the heat. A real DUH(!)
isn't it? :shock:

This morning, and for the last week it has been hilarious to watch the
TV people doing "public service" announcements and stories about cold
and snow. Earlier this week Flagstaff had some snow (people that live
there are saying YAWN!) and the TV people had to search to find a place
where there was enough snow (in town) to show on TV. A whopping three
inches (another YAWN because the streets behind the "reporter" were wet
but not covered with snow). The piece on TV this morning was about the
water stand pipes feeding houses and what you NEEDED to do to keep
them from freezing (all available from Home Depot or Lowe's). Wow (the
sound of being underwhelmed). You actually need to prepare for colder
than normal temperatures? Or even higher than normal temperatures?
{sarcasm on} WHAT A REVELATION! {/sarcasm}

This area of AZ has the largest number of snowflakes (not the ice
crystals) I have ever seen. There are a plethora of individuals that
become catatonic if not lead by the hand to keep them from actually
having to think. (shaking head) - - In saying this, I have to say that
I have not visited CA for over thirty-five years (I was born there),
thus I can't compare here to there as far as snowflakes go. My best
guess is that most of the snowflakes in AZ came from CA.
- - Just my guess.

 

[wwb]

Born and raised on the Iron Range in far northern Minnesota, I am constantly amazed at the weather dudes (and dudettes)... living now in comparatively mild east central Wisconsin, if the temperature is not sufficiently cold, they immediately refer instead to the "wind chill". This, of course, applies only to exposed skin, making it pretty important if you run around outside in your birthday suit - otherwise :roll: .

Coldest I ever saw growing up was 57 below (NOT wind chill)... later in the day, though, it warmed up to about 25 below. That's when one Minnesotan greets another with, "Cold enough for ya?"

 

[Poco Oso]

YAWN.

 

[Dan in MI]

Pat,

What you describe sounds more like general homeowner common sense. That said, I've seen homeowners that don't know which of a screwdriver to hold.

 

[tinman]

As exhibited by their political "reporting", the media has become nothing more than "the boy who cried wolf".....going to whatever lengths necessary to get the sheeple to watch their particular broadcasts. The Wind Chill Factor is a perfect example of the "pseudo science" they employ.

 

[AzShooter1]

It's been colder here in Phoenix than in Anchorage Alaska this past week.

I normally go to the range every Friday with my good friend. I called him today to verify our plans and he said No Way. He made us come home early last Friday because he couldn't handle the cold and now says it's too cold and he doesn't want to shoot until we are out of the 30s.

No problem, I'll just go to the indoor range. He won't shoot indoors. Stubborn, isn't he.

 

[Pat-inCO]

What you describe sounds more like general home owner common
sense. That said, I've seen home owners that don't know which of a
screwdriver to hold.

You mean you hold it by the END?! :shock:
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You are correct, but the emFAsis they placez on concepts the "reporter"
dooes-not understandin is amazicating.



It has been below temperature normals, but to go so completely bat-s***
ding-a-ling about it is somewhere between funny and just plain stupid.
But then again, that seems to define 90+% of TV for the last twenty years.

Tomorrow's forecast is for mid 60s so I'll try to get the SIL to show me his
super secret range place so we can make some noise. 8)

 

[any ruger]

Hunter from Hibbing was cold every winter let me know we're you are from

 

[coach]

We get similar broadcasts here and the snow and cold are no stranger. How was the bread and milk situation?

 

[RSIno1]

I was born in MI but was smart enough to get out when I was 2. My parents were both born there. The Army sent them to Anchorage, Alaska. When the war was over they came to LA to visit my dad's uncle who was LA's Harbor Master. After a little boat tour under clear blue November skies it was back to MI to save enough money for the move. Not only do we never have a white Christmas the chamber of commerce won't allow it to rain on the Rose Parade.

 

[exavid]

T'aint cold until you have to leave the cabinet under the kitchen sink open to keep the pipes from freezing.

 

[Fox Mike]

Some years ago I was visiting Tucson and the day we were to leave I was standing at the desk in the hotel checking out when the TV weather person made the announcement to be prepared for some cool weather. It was due to only be 70 the next couple of days. I laughed and the lady behind the desk asked what was funny. I told her that 70 was shirt off weather where I was from. Of course it had been 97 the day before we left. I guess a near 30 degree drop would feel a bit different. I was wondering if the homes in that area even have heating systems?

 

[Ale-8(1)]

T'aint cold until you have to leave the cabinet under the kitchen sink open to keep the pipes from freezing.

BTDT

:wink: :shock: :wink:

 

[wwb]

T'aint cold until you have to leave the cabinet under the kitchen sink open to keep the pipes from freezing.

Up north, we:
1 - Don't put any plumbing in the exterior walls
2 - Insulate... then insulate some more

My kid sister lived in a suburb of Nashville - visiting her in the winter, her house was chillier on a 40 degree day than mine is on a 10 below day....
and yup, she had pipes freeze.

 

[Rick Courtright]

My best
guess is that most of the snowflakes in AZ came from CA.
- - Just my guess.

Hi,

I understand a boatload of them are coming in from CO as it becomes a sinkhole... tell us again why YOU left?

Rick C

 

[bogus bill]

I was raised in wisconsin. Summer was a month of poor ice skating. I did my main career on the edge of the mojave desert. I worked 32 of those 35 years on graveyard mainly to escape the blistering heat. Then after retirement I got hit with a pulmonary embolism that has me on blood thinner. Now I am cold all the time and seek heat. My wife is hot all the time and we fight over the thermostat. I think the blood thinner is the reason I am cold even on hot days. This minute I am crippled up with either/or the gout and/or arthritis. Besides being painful and having to use a walker the past couple days, my feet feel like they are encased in ice and my feet and ankle feels like it's broken! This getting older sucks!

 

[exavid]

After twelve years North of the Arctic Circle I have some idea of what cold is. In those years we never had a pipe freeze. Even since leaving Alaska the two houses we bought, one in WA and the current one in Southern OR all have plumbing with insulation between the pipes and outside walls. I've seen 19F here in Southern Oregon in the ten years we've lived here with no plumbing problems.

 

[protoolman]

Hibbing MN is plenty cold, I worked at International Falls aka "Icebox of the Nation" one winter on an outdoor construction project with the wind coming off the Rainy river. Wind chills that would freeze exposed skin instantly. I ain't really been cold since moving back to North Dakota and Montana.

 

[Pat-inCO]

I understand a boatload of them are coming in from CO as
it becomes a sinkhole... tell us again why YOU left?

Actually two reasons. First, I was able to get out of the place I was in for
enough that I bought my place here, for cash, and perceptibly increased
the amount I have in savings (I've wanted out of the CO place for several
years).

Second is/was that my daughter lives about 3/4 mile away from my place
here and having family that is less than a mile away, now that I'm 75 is
quite nice. I also get to call on my SIL to do many of the things around
here that would take me three to five times as long as it takes him.
(Work doesn't bother me. I can sit and watch it all day.) 8)

SEE! As you become older, you do tend to become more devious. :wink:

Almost a P.S.
I have my own "covey" of Quail here. I buy some "large bird" seed at
Walmart and spread some out back at about 13:00 three or four days
per week. I still can't see them, but there are a lot of the Quail that seem
to have their own watches; they show up about the same time every day
and are looking for a handout. I'll feed them only until the Spring and
their regular feed becomes more readily available. I started feeding them
in late October. - - - There seem to be (they never stand still so you can't
get an accurate count) near twenty to twenty-five of them. :shock:

P.P.S. I read that if you feed them scraps from the house, it tends to not
have enough protein in it for the new chicks to do well with. That's why I
use the $1/pound seed from Wally World.