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Libs are like the living dead but maybe not as smart.
hesco said:Reminds me of that austrailian, that was killed by a stingray a few years ago.
Thanks for the run down and videos. I am truly shocked. Those videos are exactly what make me feel disgusted. Seems common sense is in short supply on the west coast. Luckily here on in Florida and I presume the rest of the east coast we have not had unintended consequences anything like that. Fishing restrictions and limits and preserve areas are what we are deciding mostly, that and how to get rid of the Pacific Lionfish that has invaded our reefs. I feel lucky after hearing about all those problems to still have some sense of normalcy in the ocean around here. 8)opos said:Jimbo357mag said:Just curious about California. What did people do to keep the seals and sea lions at reasonable levels and off the beaches and marinas before that marine mammal act was passed. Just looking at pics and videos of areas where they have taken over is disgusting.
Several things...first there is a huge mortality rate in any ocean creature....only a few of the population survive...Sea Lions (the ones with ears and rear flippers they kind of sit up on..like the entertaining kind) and seals (the ones that don't have ears and sort of flop along on their stomachs) are, as with any species nothing more than a food source. They lived in the kelp forests (as did the sea otters ...the cute little guys that hammer a shell open on their stomach while they lay on their back)....The kelp forests have been devistated over the years by commercial harvesting. The Abalone that they fed on are gone with the kelp as are the sea urchins that are an Asian favorite...all gone now fished out and with no kelp to speak of the whole biosystem is gone...with it would have gone the lions and seals but they moved "inshore" to the places the board are..they eat the bait...people feed them...they eat the trimmings and guts from the fish cleaning and they devistate a fishing party by stealing fish off the lines. Yes they did often get shot but no more...not even a wrist rocket sling shot or bb gun.
Jimbo357mag said:Thanks for the run down and videos. I am truly shocked. Those videos are exactly what make me feel disgusted. Seems common sense is in short supply on the west coast. Luckily here on in Florida and I presume the rest of the east coast we have not had unintended consequences anything like that. Fishing restrictions and limits and preserve areas are what we are deciding mostly, that and how to get rid of the Pacific Lionfish that has invaded our reefs. I feel lucky after hearing about all those problems to still have some sense of normalcy in the ocean around here. 8)opos said:Jimbo357mag said:Just curious about California. What did people do to keep the seals and sea lions at reasonable levels and off the beaches and marinas before that marine mammal act was passed. Just looking at pics and videos of areas where they have taken over is disgusting.
Several things...first there is a huge mortality rate in any ocean creature....only a few of the population survive...Sea Lions (the ones with ears and rear flippers they kind of sit up on..like the entertaining kind) and seals (the ones that don't have ears and sort of flop along on their stomachs) are, as with any species nothing more than a food source. They lived in the kelp forests (as did the sea otters ...the cute little guys that hammer a shell open on their stomach while they lay on their back)....The kelp forests have been devistated over the years by commercial harvesting. The Abalone that they fed on are gone with the kelp as are the sea urchins that are an Asian favorite...all gone now fished out and with no kelp to speak of the whole biosystem is gone...with it would have gone the lions and seals but they moved "inshore" to the places the board are..they eat the bait...people feed them...they eat the trimmings and guts from the fish cleaning and they devistate a fishing party by stealing fish off the lines. Yes they did often get shot but no more...not even a wrist rocket sling shot or bb gun.
I'm not really sure that is an accurate statement. We have many species that are not native to Florida and we can kill them without repercussions, mainly; Pythons, Iguanas, Monitors, Lionfish and many more. There is a guy you can hirer in this area to shoot Iguanas with a pellet rifle and they have organized 'Python hunts' about once a year with bounties.opos said:Amen to that...the Marine protection act is Nation Wide..and it does not just apply to "native species"...if a "pet" is dumped in the glades and it begins to reproduce...it's now a protected species and can't be bothered.
Jimbo357mag said:I'm not really sure that is an accurate statement. We have many species that are not native to Florida and we can kill them without repercussions, mainly; Pythons, Iguanas, Monitors, Lionfish and many more. There is a guy you can hirer in this area to shoot Iguanas with a pellet rifle and they have organized 'Python hunts' about once a year with bounties.opos said:Amen to that...the Marine protection act is Nation Wide..and it does not just apply to "native species"...if a "pet" is dumped in the glades and it begins to reproduce...it's now a protected species and can't be bothered.
http://myfwc.com/wildlifehabitats/nonnatives/