A Well Deserved Shark Attack!

hesco said:
Reminds me of that austrailian, that was killed by a stingray a few years ago.

Oh, you mean the tv expert L.A. hire to catch one single pet alligator and failed miserably? Poor gator, they finally caught him so they could put him in a zoo and take good care of him. After all he had just grown since he showed up. Oh, and he died at the zoo, then the zoo folks put another in his place to hide the fact.

RIP Reggie, you died way too young due to human stupidity and ego.
 
opos said:
Jimbo357mag said:
Just curious about California. What did people do to keep the seals and sea lions at reasonable levels and off the beaches and marinas before that marine mammal act was passed. Just looking at pics and videos of areas where they have taken over is disgusting.

Several things...first there is a huge mortality rate in any ocean creature....only a few of the population survive...Sea Lions (the ones with ears and rear flippers they kind of sit up on..like the entertaining kind) and seals (the ones that don't have ears and sort of flop along on their stomachs) are, as with any species nothing more than a food source. They lived in the kelp forests (as did the sea otters ...the cute little guys that hammer a shell open on their stomach while they lay on their back)....The kelp forests have been devistated over the years by commercial harvesting. The Abalone that they fed on are gone with the kelp as are the sea urchins that are an Asian favorite...all gone now fished out and with no kelp to speak of the whole biosystem is gone...with it would have gone the lions and seals but they moved "inshore" to the places the board are..they eat the bait...people feed them...they eat the trimmings and guts from the fish cleaning and they devistate a fishing party by stealing fish off the lines. Yes they did often get shot but no more...not even a wrist rocket sling shot or bb gun.
Thanks for the run down and videos. I am truly shocked. Those videos are exactly what make me feel disgusted. Seems common sense is in short supply on the west coast. Luckily here on in Florida and I presume the rest of the east coast we have not had unintended consequences anything like that. Fishing restrictions and limits and preserve areas are what we are deciding mostly, that and how to get rid of the Pacific Lionfish that has invaded our reefs. I feel lucky after hearing about all those problems to still have some sense of normalcy in the ocean around here. 8)
 
Jimbo357mag said:
opos said:
Jimbo357mag said:
Just curious about California. What did people do to keep the seals and sea lions at reasonable levels and off the beaches and marinas before that marine mammal act was passed. Just looking at pics and videos of areas where they have taken over is disgusting.

Several things...first there is a huge mortality rate in any ocean creature....only a few of the population survive...Sea Lions (the ones with ears and rear flippers they kind of sit up on..like the entertaining kind) and seals (the ones that don't have ears and sort of flop along on their stomachs) are, as with any species nothing more than a food source. They lived in the kelp forests (as did the sea otters ...the cute little guys that hammer a shell open on their stomach while they lay on their back)....The kelp forests have been devistated over the years by commercial harvesting. The Abalone that they fed on are gone with the kelp as are the sea urchins that are an Asian favorite...all gone now fished out and with no kelp to speak of the whole biosystem is gone...with it would have gone the lions and seals but they moved "inshore" to the places the board are..they eat the bait...people feed them...they eat the trimmings and guts from the fish cleaning and they devistate a fishing party by stealing fish off the lines. Yes they did often get shot but no more...not even a wrist rocket sling shot or bb gun.
Thanks for the run down and videos. I am truly shocked. Those videos are exactly what make me feel disgusted. Seems common sense is in short supply on the west coast. Luckily here on in Florida and I presume the rest of the east coast we have not had unintended consequences anything like that. Fishing restrictions and limits and preserve areas are what we are deciding mostly, that and how to get rid of the Pacific Lionfish that has invaded our reefs. I feel lucky after hearing about all those problems to still have some sense of normalcy in the ocean around here. 8)


You may want to talk to all your moronic liberal buddies that keep turning exotic animals and fish loose in the Everglades and the canals down their in the South Florida area.
 
"You may want to talk to all your moronic liberal buddies that keep turning exotic animals and fish loose in the Everglades and the canals down their in the South Florida "

Amen to that...the Marine protection act is Nation Wide..and it does not just apply to "native species"...if a "pet" is dumped in the glades and it begins to reproduce...it's now a protected species and can't be bothered.

As you look at the videos there are others about places like pier 39 in SFO that show the tourists jamming the dock areas to see and feed the sea lions....we got "seal tour companies" here that use the old amphibious "Ducks" to take people out in the bay and go from buoy to buoy (favorite place for sea lions to "sun themselves"...This whole "movement" is a pure liberal, pacifist kind of thing..and it's got the ecology so out of whack we will never get it back in tune with nature.

A little "aside"...PETA (check their web site) has a national move afoot to change the name of the species from "Fish" to "Sea Kittens" to make fish more appealing to youngsters..all warm and fuzzy....that's the kind of thing that is "loose" in the U.S. today...Sea Kittens??? Great White Sea Kittens???? with a tourist kid in it's mouth?

"Bring me a McSeakitten sandwich with fries..ummmmm good

http://features.peta.org/PETASeaKittens/
 
opos said:
Amen to that...the Marine protection act is Nation Wide..and it does not just apply to "native species"...if a "pet" is dumped in the glades and it begins to reproduce...it's now a protected species and can't be bothered.
I'm not really sure that is an accurate statement. We have many species that are not native to Florida and we can kill them without repercussions, mainly; Pythons, Iguanas, Monitors, Lionfish and many more. There is a guy you can hirer in this area to shoot Iguanas with a pellet rifle and they have organized 'Python hunts' about once a year with bounties. :D

http://myfwc.com/wildlifehabitats/nonnatives/
 
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Jimbo357mag said:
opos said:
Amen to that...the Marine protection act is Nation Wide..and it does not just apply to "native species"...if a "pet" is dumped in the glades and it begins to reproduce...it's now a protected species and can't be bothered.
I'm not really sure that is an accurate statement. We have many species that are not native to Florida and we can kill them without repercussions, mainly; Pythons, Iguanas, Monitors, Lionfish and many more. There is a guy you can hirer in this area to shoot Iguanas with a pellet rifle and they have organized 'Python hunts' about once a year with bounties. :D

http://myfwc.com/wildlifehabitats/nonnatives/

Those are not "marine Mammals"..I think my statement about dumping animals was a bit off point and I confused things that are illegal (dumping) with control and also lumped marine mammals and other life forms together...my mistake...

...not many folks have a dolphin in the fish tank but there were many seal and sea lion shows on both coasts for years..today with the exception of a few like Sea World where they take on rehabilibation of wild sick and injured mammals I don't think they can be legally kept in captivity..... You have many dolphins/whales/etc that are marine mammals...try to harass a Manatee and as I'm sure you know...it can get expensive...here is a list of what is considered marine mammals....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_mammal
 
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