A few comments about the 22LR

[DGW1949]

One of the concerns about shooting someone with a .22 is that he may be alive to sue you.

Or kill you.

DGW

 

[LDB]

You are correct, and no....with him already advancing from 10 feet, there was no time to reload. My next step would have been to use the gun like a ball bat and smack him upside the head....maybe...."Maybe" meaning if he didn't get me with the knife he was holding first....At any rate, your point is valid.
The only other thing I have to say is that all those folks out there that think they're going to have time to use all 7, 8, 10, or 13 shots, or whatever, out of those little pop guns they carry around are day dreaming. Things simply happen way too fast for that...plus, sometimes there's more than one bad guy and they have guns too. Then what?..And BTW, the bad guys have way-more experience at these things than most ordinary people do, and they don't just stand still waiting to get shot like those paper targets down at the range.

Serious stuff, that's what it is.
DGW

No, probably not a dozen shots. But potentially at least two, maybe three or even possibly four. Enough to make more than one a probably good plan.

 

[magpouch]

Looks like the 410 was enough gun.

 

[vito]

Like most here, I normally carry a 9mm semi auto with either 7+1 or 10+1 depending on the gun. But sometimes when leaving the house for an errand I just grab my LCP in 22LR in the Desantis pocket holster which disappears nicely in my right front pocket of my jeans or shorts. But especially when wearing light weight shorts or even sweat pants, that little 22 can be carried easily while my larger guns would take more effort to find a way to carry. I'm pretty confident that if needed, that little gun will be able to get me out of trouble.

 

[DGW1949]

Looks like the 410 was enough gun.

No, by any reasonable definition of stopping power it most certainly was not ....The mere fact that he was able to flee meant that he was also able to continue the attack. In other words, I was just plain lucky that night.

DGW

 

[Joe Chartreuse]

Isn't a .410 Topper a single-shot? So scenario B the BG continues to attack and achieves that before reloading is accomplished. And bad things happen. Not against .410 but against single-shot or 2-shots anything for defense. YMMV

I sit corrected. Single shot it is. Would definitely choose something else in that case.

 

[Teflon97116]

In any emergency scenario where immediately stopping a threat is the objective, it would seem that Minimum Tissue Trauma would be inferior to Maximum Tissue Trauma.

 

[DGW1949]

I sit corrected. Single shot it is. Would definitely choose something else in that case.

I didn't have a choice. Like I said, it was all I had and didn't know any better....
Heck, I wasn't much more than a kid and had never even thought about a thing like that happening, let alone been in that kind of situation....I tell ya what though, there ain't nothing like a good dose of reality for getting one's priorities straightened out. From then on, every time I had need of a real gun, I had one..LOL.

DGW

 

[19drivermaker46]

Like most here, I normally carry a 9mm semi auto with either 7+1 or 10+1 depending on the gun. But sometimes when leaving the house for an errand I just grab my LCP in 22LR in the Desantis pocket holster which disappears nicely in my right front pocket of my jeans or shorts. But especially when wearing light weight shorts or even sweat pants, that little 22 can be carried easily while my larger guns would take more effort to find a way to carry. I'm pretty confident that if needed, that little gun will be able to get me out of trouble.

Do criminals now ask or make note of what caliber someone is using after the gun is drawn and pointed at them? Or might they be crapping their drawers because they picked the wrong person to begin with and are now going to attempt a new world record in the 100m dash?

 

[vito]

Do criminals now ask or make note of what caliber someone is using after the gun is drawn and pointed at them? Or might they be crapping their drawers because they picked the wrong person to begin with and are now going to attempt a new world record in the 100m dash?

I agree with you. Reality is that most of us will go our entire adult lives without ever having to draw, let alone use the firearm on our belt (or pocket). And if we do have to draw the gun, it is more likely than not that we will not have to pull the trigger to stop the threat. And as the odds of something happening where we have to actually use our firearm, already very very small, then the caliber of the gun becomes a minor factor. But yet there are many who apparently never leave their home without two guns and multiple extra magazines, plus a knife or two or whatever. Each to their own.

 

[19drivermaker46]

I agree with you. Reality is that most of us will go our entire adult lives without ever having to draw, let alone use the firearm on our belt (or pocket). And if we do have to draw the gun, it is more likely than not that we will not have to pull the trigger to stop the threat. And as the odds of something happening where we have to actually use our firearm, already very very small, then the caliber of the gun becomes a minor factor. But yet there are many who apparently never leave their home without two guns and multiple extra magazines, plus a knife or two or whatever. Each to their own.

Well thought out and well stated. What is most often seen on gun forums is a lack of the last four words in your post. "Each to their own." It's like you aren't a REAL man if you don't carry a hand cannon along with extra ammo anytime or every time you leave the house. And the ones that don't, even though they do carry but not to the standards of the mega caliber ammo and weapon size of those who do, you're doing it half assed with too little thought and preparation. In my case, I own 21 handguns in many different calibers, capacity and size. Some of them do qualify as hand cannons. I don't live in a high crime area. I could probably carry a water pistol that looked very realistic and it would still be enough to scare the hell out of some whack job that wanted money. My choice is my choice for the size and caliber. All more powerful than a water gun and will cause blood to stream out.