77/357 opinions

Brother_Love

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I have been looking for a 357 rifle for plinking and less than 100 yard deer hunting. I started out wanting a JM Marlin but I did not want to mortgage my house. I looked at Henry and was getting serious when someone reminded me of the 77/357.

Who has one and what can you tell me a bout it.

Thanks
 
Interesting timing. Just got home today from shopping for one of these 77/357's. Still, nobody in my area will stock them.

I know I can order one, but with shipping and transfers, it's just too expensive.

WAYNO.
 
You will have no taxes if you order from out of state, that will more then cover any fees.
 
I have the Henry 357 and it's a joy to shoot. I haven't seen or tried the 77/357 but imagem it would also be a joy to shoot. All of my other 77's have been great shooting rifles. So I would say get both a Henry and the Ruger can't ever have to many good rifles. :D :D
 
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Have you looked at the Henry and Rossi lever-action 357 rifles?

http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/default.aspx

Here are a couple of links from past discussions of the 77/357. I remember there was some problems with the magazines at first but I expect the bugs have been worked out by now.

http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=222579&p=2224677&hilit=77%2F357#p2224677

http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=221462&hilit=77%2F357

http://www.rugerforum.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=216023&p=2166330&hilit=77%2F357#p2166330
 
The 77/357 is a good option for the turn bolt fan. I've had one for a couple years and no complaints, but...

I just bought a Henry Steel Carbine in .357 ($615 at LGS) and like it even better, but that's just personal preference. Haven't decided on an optic for the Henry yet, but it will get one soon.

They both feed .38s and .357s without issues.

Good luck with your purchase.

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Bought a used 77/357 for my then 11 year old daughter to hunt deer. Virtually no recoil with .38 Specials for practice and easily manageable with .357 Mags. She shot a couple of deer with it the past couple years. Longest shot was 50 yards. Great fun for plinking for everyone. I cut the stock down 1" to fit her better.

I believe you will like it.
 
WAYNO said:
Interesting timing. Just got home today from shopping for one of these 77/357's. Still, nobody in my area will stock them.

I know I can order one, but with shipping and transfers, it's just too expensive.

WAYNO.

Find a dealer who works with the distributor Zanders Sporting goods from IL. They have them in stock.
 
rugnelli said:
Hey Kanook

What loaded you use on her?

rugnelli
it's the last of some factory ammo from North Georgia reloading ammo I bought. It is 158 XTP at 1500fps. I bought about 300 rounds right after my surgery a couple of years ago because my wife liked it, me also.

We have put about 4 deer and 1 hawg in the freezer with it. Her deer this year was about 40yds with no tracking either. The only thing that I would change would be the barrel length down to 10inches if the BATFE didn't want the $200 permission.
 
I am using a Ruger No.1A in .357 Magnum for Ohio white tail deer. I have the model issued after the factory produced the California Highway Patrol model. They had an over run of them and it shoots extremely well with my hand loads of the 180 grain Hornady XTP. One deer was double lunged at a ranged distance of 110 yards. Very little tracking was involved. Brass Frame/Lee
 
Got the best of me. Ordered one today. Hate having to pay postage twice, but it's the only chance I'd ever have of getting one of these. :mrgreen:

Local distributors and local dealers have decided they'll never sell these, so they'll never stock them. Sounds like what happened to the PC9/PC40. :?

WAYNO.
 
WAYNO said:
Got the best of me. Ordered one today. Hate having to pay postage twice, but it's the only chance I'd ever have of getting one of these. :mrgreen:

Local distributors and local dealers have decided they'll never sell these, so they'll never stock them. Sounds like what happened to the PC9/PC40. :?

WAYNO.
Way to go. You will give us a report won't you? :D
 
Jimbo357mag said:
WAYNO said:
Got the best of me. Ordered one today. Hate having to pay postage twice, but it's the only chance I'd ever have of getting one of these. :mrgreen:

Local distributors and local dealers have decided they'll never sell these, so they'll never stock them. Sounds like what happened to the PC9/PC40. :?

WAYNO.
Way to go. You will give us a report won't you? :D

Yep, I do like to share my experiences. If my experience is great, I say so. If it's not, I also say so. Not everybody likes my reports. :mrgreen:

I had high hopes for this platform in the 77/44. I owned three of them. Hope the 77/357 shoots a little better. 8)

WAYNO.
 
I love my rifle. No issues with reliability. I thought about a level action versus a bolt action. Bolt action M77 is tough and fewer moving parts to go wrong. My M77 is accurate with my hand loads and recoil is almost non existent. Well compared with a 3006. Light, points easily and packs a lethal punch when the round is placed correctly. The only mod I did was a Timney trigger and nice Nikon scope. Everyone in the family loves it. It brings home the meat. What more can you ask for?
 
I've had a 77/357 for about a year now. I chrono'd 158 sp's over a max charge of H110, and they're moving at 1700 fps plus. I haven't shot it much, but have printed 2-3" at 100 yards, which I hope to improve upon. I like the rifle a lot, although I had to tune the trigger. Very robust design, compact, and a very handy rifle.
 
Ferdinand said:
I've had a 77/357 for about a year now. I chrono'd 158 sp's over a max charge of H110, and they're moving at 1700 fps plus. I haven't shot it much, but have printed 2-3" at 100 yards, which I hope to improve upon. I like the rifle a lot, although I had to tune the trigger. Very robust design, compact, and a very handy rifle.

Same load, mine groups a bit better than what you stated for yours. Anyway, my cabin gun, and lots of fun. Never hunted with it, though I pack it when my wife is picking blue berries in case we run into Yogi Bear and he wants to be a bit too friendly.

By the way, just tracked down and ordered a 77/17 in 17 Hornady Hornet. Looking forward to that, and once the snows melt will be packing both out to the cabin and since I am retiring in January, will be doing that more frequently.
 
I did not notice this thread til today....hope you like the gun. Kygunco still has them if anyone else is looking. Don't know how their price compares with what yours cost.
http://www.kygunco.com/ruger-77357-357-magnum-%7C-38-special-52293

:D
 
Okay, here's my report. It was pouring down rain at the range, so all I did was fire from the covered 50-yard range at remnants of clay pigeons that are scattered throughout the impact berm.

Once I got the scope zeroed, breaking pieces of clay pigeons was very routine. So I cannot tell you if this is a 2" group at 50-yards, or a half-inch group. The results on the clay pigeons would look the same. I will shoot at paper when the weather and the time is right. :mrgreen:

Now, the rifle...

Seems to be built well. Fit and finish is on par with any other All-Weather Ruger firearm. The magazine and the magazine release do not work well together. Pushing in on the release still requires some manipulation and tugging to get the magazine free. Inserting the magazine is even tougher. Requires two hands. One hand inserting the magazine, and the other hand pushing on the magazine release to get the magazine to seat. It will not pop-in otherwise. I'm hoping a little wear-in will free all this up. Lubrication where the magazine meets the release did not help.

Now, the scope and ring combination...

I remember this was an issue with my 77/44's also. The factory rings are quite high. I installed a Leupold Compact M8 4-power. The spacing of the rings is such that the eyepiece is way too far forward, and not usable. So I then installed a standard-length Leupold M8 4-power. Eye relief was then okay, but the M8 is a pretty skinny scope. I was able to put my hand between the objective and the barrel. Way too high.

So, I figured I'd put low rings on this gun for use with the M8 scope. I did so, and everything seemed perfect. Perfect until I discovered the bolt handle now hits the eyepiece on the scope. :?

Now back to the tall rings. So since the scope must sit really high over the receiver, there's no reason not to use a bigger scope. I know for a couple reasons it's overkill, but I settled on my Burris 4.5x14x32 AO. I've got a lot of scopes to choose from, and this one fit the best. These rings are still higher than I like, but there's really no other choice than this to preserve bolt handle to scope clearance. And the bolt handle is still pretty close to the bell on the eyepiece.

I remember the scope I settled on with the 77/44's was the old 1.5x4x20 Leupold. I can't find any in my stash, so maybe I sold it. I can see myself buying another, and installing it with lower rings. I did not have bolt handle clearance issues with this scope on the 77/44's.

I could also see me just putting an aperture sight on this little gun.

So...

Just like the 77/44, the 77/357 is pretty tiny. In this case, tiny means very handy, and that's exactly why I buy these kinds of guns. I did not shoot many rounds today, but with the ease of breaking any piece of clay pigeon I wanted to, I'm sure once I actually group it on paper, I will be satisfied. And I will be further satisfied when I acquire the right scope and ring combination.

WAYNO.
 
Wayno,

I have mentioned the scope/bolt handle clearance before. It is frustrating! Two ways of fixing it the way I see it...a different stock with a higher comb or finding a good smith to reshape the bolt handle so it will clear with low rings. I have not decided what to do with my 77/44 yet but before I will be completely happy with it , one of the two needs to be done. Love the rifle but the way it is makes for an unnatural hold on the rifle which makes a fast shot harder to pull off. Like you said , they are light and quick handling and not having your eye where it needs to be without having to work at it isn't constructive.

Years ago I had a rock quarry on the old farm and we used to shoot the snot out of clay birds! Thanks for jogging my memory! Back then I used to shoot a lot of handguns and hunted with them a lot more than I have lately. I had a scoped 6" GP100 and breaking them out to 150 was boring off of a rest. Had to use different offhand/hunting positions to keep it interesting. Try extending the range when you get the chance and you might be suprised what the little 357 will do!
 
My mags are hard to insert/remove also. I find that if I have/leave the bolt open that it is a little easier to do. I have contemplated extending the mag button to what the 10/22 looks like hoping to fix it.
 
Dranrab said:
How's the noise level on these carbines? Similar to a 44 magnum rifle?

I paid no attention. My experience with handgun cartridges in a carbine, is they are much more pleasant than when shot in a handgun. So, since I specifically did not notice, I suspect the report the report from this 77/.357 was insignificant, as compared to a rifle cartridge.

WAYNO.
 
Wayno, I bought the 77/357 about 2 months ago. I did the volquartsen sear and spring $36 and it dropped the trigger down to 2lbs. I also installed the bolt shims $10 and added a skinner peep sight $51 and this is by far my favorite rifle to shoot. It's very accurate and a great hunting or truck gun.
 
Rossi 92 in 357 at 16 inches is a very useful and fun little rifle. QC with Rossi like many gun companies now is spotty.

Check them out good before you buy- if you get a good one they are super.!
 
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