7.62x39 bolt gun

Blammer308 said:
I think I would really like a good bolt gun in this caliber. I wish Ruger made one in the American rifle.

There are a few different M77 Mark II models in that caliber, none with really high production numbers though.
Chet15
 
Not that hard to get a small action Mauser converted to 7.62x39, and it's appropriate for the weaker actions like 1895 "Spanish Mausers" (whether made in Spain or not). Hardest thing is to get the magazine to feed right but there have been videos on how to do that.

You just need a Bubbaed '95 Mauser. Somebody makes a prefit barrel, I've seen them but can't remember where--one of the big parts houses.

A really ratty 6.5 Arisaka would work, too; I just wouldn't tear any decent rifle apart to do this conversion--you're just after a workable action. I have seen Arisakas that were originally converted by the Chinese or Vietnamese to 7.62x39.
 
I have a M77 Hawkeye compact in 7.62x39, it is a very nice little gun. Handy for hunting thick woods, or for a smaller statured person. Accuracy is excellent, even with cheap steel cased ammo. Remington, Interarms, and Charles Daly all imported the Zastava "mini Mauser" with different names in the last couple decades. They are a decent gun, and usually sell used for under $400. Century Arms is currently importing them.
 
CZ makes (or used to make) a nice little 18" barrel, bolt-action carbine, I think on the 527 action in 7.62 x 39. Only problem for me was they didn't make a left-hand version. Thought it would make a very quick-handling whitetail gun for the thick stuff.
 
Here ya' go...great little rifle NIB for $450

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=401467214
 
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WebleyMan said:
CZ makes (or used to make) a nice little 18" barrel, bolt-action carbine, I think on the 527 action in 7.62 x 39. Only problem for me was they didn't make a left-hand version. Thought it would make a very quick-handling whitetail gun for the thick stuff.

They still make it and it's a great little rifle. Far more accurate than I ever imagined, even with lousy ammo. Reloading Hornady AMax it's "3 shots one hole" at 100 yds all day long. Not to speak ill of Ruger, but I'd take the CZ. Never any issues with accuracy with the CZ rifles.
 
LuckenbachTexas said:
Even a 30-30 is better than said caliber in a compact...Good God?

Published .30-30 velocity and energy numbers are usually generated from a 24" barrel, real world velocity from a 16 or 20" barrel is quite a bit less. The 7.62x39 round was designed from the get-go for a 20" barreled carbine, and loses less than 100fps out of a 16" barrel. The .30-30 will certainly handle heavier bullets, and have more energy at the muzzle, but past 200 yards the x39 has more energy and a flatter trajectory. Either one is perfectly capable of taking deer sized game at short to medium range.
I'm not sure one caliber is "better" than the other, they are two very different cartridges suited to very different rifles. I have taken deer with both, and the deer were equally dead.
 
http://ruger.com/products/miniThirty/specSheets/5806.html

Ever thought about one of these?


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:arrow: I would buy a Ruger American compact in 7.62X39 if they came out with one..

Already have a an older early to mid 90's Ruger 77 boat paddle stock with wood inserts, a Mini 30, Zastava, and a CZ in 7.62X39..

While the CZ shoots like a house a fire with cast bullets I hate a magazine that hangs below the stock for one hand carry while hunting..
The big 77 over whelms the little round..
The Zastava does't feed all that well and I have not found a really accurate load for it yet..
So I would sell all 3 of them for a little RAR stainless compact in 7.62X39..
Actually two of them..
One with a cheap (but great) Bushnell ELITE 10X Tactical for long range rock shooting and one set up with open sites/peep for general knock around, hunting rifle..

I would install some Ruger Scout rifle sites on the American in 7.62X39 and have perhaps the most useful all around, every day, fun shooting rifle..

I would hope that they would make the mag. long enough and twist it fast enough to accommodate long .30 cal. match bullets just for grins..
aka 300 BLK (get the picture?)

And then there is all that cheap Chinese ammo..

:arrow: What a great little rifle to teach kids how to shoot with and use on their first deer hunts..
Low recoil, low noise and cheap ammo..

I WANT!.... :lol:

LOL

P.S. click on this link to tell the CEO that you want also..
Ya know you do!..
:arrow: https://www.ruger.com/dataProcess/tellTheCEO.html

LOL X2
 
Nrut said:
:arrow: I would buy a Ruger American compact in 7.62X39 if they came out with one..

Already have a an older early to mid 90's Ruger 77 boat paddle stock with wood inserts, a Mini 30, Zastava, and a CZ in 7.62X39..

While the CZ shoots like a house a fire with cast bullets I hate a magazine that hangs below the stock for one hand carry while hunting..
The big 77 over whelms the little round..
The Zastava does't feed all that well and I have not found a really accurate load for it yet..
So I would sell all 3 of them for a little RAR stainless compact in 7.62X39..
Actually two of them..
One with a cheap (but great) Bushnell ELITE 10X Tactical for long range rock shooting and one set up with open sites/peep for general knock around, hunting rifle..

I would install some Ruger Scout rifle sites on the American in 7.62X39 and have perhaps the most useful all around, every day, fun shooting rifle..

I would hope that they would make the mag. long enough and twist it fast enough to accommodate long .30 cal. match bullets just for grins..
aka 300 BLK (get the picture?)

And then there is all that cheap Chinese ammo..

:arrow: What a great little rifle to teach kids how to shoot with and use on their first deer hunts..
Low recoil, low noise and cheap ammo..

I WANT!.... :lol:

LOL

P.S. click on this link to tell the CEO that you want also..
Ya know you do!..
:arrow: https://www.ruger.com/dataProcess/tellTheCEO.html

LOL X2

Not to go off track, but I have a Remington 700 SPS with 16" threaded barrel & HS stock in 300 AAC. I added an extended floorplate for a 10 round capacity. I reload too. It's a fun little rifle, has a weird report when fired, kind of like a 32-20 fired from a pistol. But the accuracy just isn't there, at least as of yet. And there's a heck of a point of impact difference between the 110/125s and the heavier stuff.

I'm still in the "fiddling around" stage, but thus far I'd give the set up only fair reviews. I'm thinking about a rebarrel to 6x47/222 RM.
 
Not to go off track, but I have a Remington 700 SPS with 16" threaded barrel & HS stock in 300 AAC. I added an extended floorplate for a 10 round capacity. I reload too. It's a fun little rifle, has a weird report when fired, kind of like a 32-20 fired from a pistol. But the accuracy just isn't there, at least as of yet. And there's a heck of a point of impact difference between the 110/125s and the heavier stuff.

I'm still in the "fiddling around" stage, but thus far I'd give the set up only fair reviews. I'm thinking about a rebarrel to 6x47/222 RM.[/quote]

Yeah....one of my boys has one of them Remington 300 AAC, Blackout, whiz-bang, fancy whatevers with the threaded muzzel, H&S stock, etc etc. His won't shoot either....with any ammo. Hand loads, strore bought, different bullet weights, it don't matter...the dern thing just won't shoot a good group. Tried moving the factory pressure points around, glassing the forearm, free-floating the fore arm, re-bedding, re-crowning, with and without a thread protector, different scope mounts....still didn't matter...still won't shoot.
Just as a point of interest, he has two AR's with "300 Blackout" uppers. They don't shoot all that good either. That is, they don't shoot all that good when they do shoot...meaning that he has a lot of "jamming" issues with both of them.

Me thinks that mostly, what it comes down to is a bad cartridge design, probably related to it's realy-short neck, miniscule case capacity, and/or it not being suited for the twist-rate of the barrels it's usualy paired with. What I know for sure is that one doesn't see these kind of problems with 7.62X39 rifles, particularly bolt-guns...which are very-often very-accurate.

I hope that you get your's sorted out....but personaly, I'd be more inclined to trade it off while there's still some sort of market for the things.

DGW
 
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I'm thinking of making a change - soon as I zip through about 500 rounds of ammo. I'd like to be a bit economical. The barrel is .308 of course, the bolt face is for the .223. If I switch to 308 I need a rechamber & bolt face work. If I go 223 I need a new barrel.

Maybe I should turn this thing into a X39 rifle with a .308 bore? Or maybe a 300 WSM?
 
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