45 Colt Fans

[hamour]

On Castboolits Miha is finishing a group buy of a clone of the RCBS SAA 270gr bullet in a cramer style brass mold. It can be had with two styles of hollow point pins. He has extras built so buy now or cry latter.
You can reverse the pins and cast the normal SWC solid.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/forumdisplay.php?f=55

 

[pvtschultz]

I really wish that I was into casting right now... damn! Someone should buy an extra one and hold onto it for a few years so I can buy it off of them then. lol.

 

[DGW1949]

You might note that a swaged-lead and/or soft cast 250ish SWC often expands quite nicely in heavy meat at "normal" 45LC velocities. "Meat" meaning deer-sized animals that offer the required resistance.
That said, it looks to me that the mould & bullets that are pictured are intended for some sort of a "specialty" bullet/load. Perhaps for a "Ruger only" load to stretch the 45LC's effective range...or for use in a rifle?

Whatever it is for, looks like it would feed perty-slick in a levergun.

DGW

 

[CraigC]

Perhaps for a "Ruger only" load to stretch the 45LC's effective range...or for use in a rifle?

What makes you say that, the hollow point? Dave Scovill designed the original mold for RCBS and it was intended specifically for the Colt SAA. He likes to load them over 2400 for around 1100fps.

 

[hamour]

The smaller hpt is meant for higher velocity and a mix of 1/20 or 1/16, just as Elmer Keith used in his 44 mag loads

The larger hpt should work with 1/20 or 1/25 mix at lower velocity, or with ww softened with pure lead + 2-3% tin

In any case it is designed for the 45 Colt and I plan on using it in my 25-5 around 950 fps and with a harder alloy picking up the speed in my RBH 4 5/8 bbl.

 

[DGW1949]

Perhaps for a "Ruger only" load to stretch the 45LC's effective range...or for use in a rifle?

What makes you say that, the hollow point? Dave Scovill designed the original mold for RCBS and it was intended specifically for the Colt SAA. He likes to load them over 2400 for around 1100fps.

Yeah, that... and it's somewhat longish bearing length combined with a rounded orgive. I guess that what I'm saying is that being a bit more steamlined than a traditional 45-Colt SWC of simular weight, it strikes me as something I'd like to try in my old Rossi '92.

DGW

 

[Quarterbore]

Boy funds are tight but I am tempted to get in on this too... Just need to pay off a lay-a-way deal I have on a gun. I bet if you bought one of these you could sell some of these bullets to those of us that might not be able to get a mold :wink: :idea:

Anybody up to casting extras for a modest fee? :wink:

Of course, if I bought one then I could cast some and paerhaps cover part of the cost too, huh?

I wonder how these would work with the 454 with modest loads too?

 

[Dale53]

Actually, this bullet in both solid point and hollow point configuration is meant for ALL .45 Colt caliber handguns.

The large hollow point will work well (with the proper alloy) at typical modern .45 Colt revolvers at 850-900 fps well within SAAMI specs.

The smaller hollow point should work well with "Ruger only" loads.

The solid point will work with ANY modern Colt at any reasonable velocity.

This VERY versatile PREMIUM bullet mould should be in every .45 Colt Bullet casters tool box.

I will be using mine in my .45 Colt Ruger Bisley Vaquero and my Ruger SS Bisley .45 Colt/.45 ACP Convertible.

I cannot imagine a better combination than that bullet in my .45 Colts.

In the past, hollow points have been slow to cast in single cavity moulds. I have several Lyman hollow point moulds, and with some attention to detail I can cast very good bullets with them. However, it is SLOW, SLOW, SLOW.

With the pictured MiHec Cramer Style mould (in my .44 Keith H&G #503 as I am waiting on delivery of my .45 Colt mould) I can run 15 lbs of finished bullets with almost NO rejects in an hour and twenty minutes. That is excellent production of hollow point bullets.

Super product! In the spirit of full disclosure, I will say that I honchoed that Group Buy on the Cast Boolit Forum. I have no financial interest in MiHec moulds but I am CERTAINLY a fan of them.

Dale53

 

[M'BOGO]

Dale, I've been hemmin and hawwin' on this one, but I'm gonna jump in. I havn't spent a whole lotta time over there in CB land (Von Dingo over there). I got the ball rollin.

 

[J Miller]

What bothers me is the original RCBS bullet was intended to weigh 270grs. But that was with a 10-1 Lead-tin alloy. 270grs is a good weight, and works very well.

When you cast from softer alloys and wheel weights the weight goes up. And the bullet becomes too heavy for normal pressure .45 Colt loads. You can't easily push a 280+ gr bullet at 850-900 fps and keep it around 14000 PSI.

If you're shooting a Ruger or one of the stronger lever guns then that is irrelevant. But if you're shooting a Colt or a copy, it becomes important.

I find myself wondering what it would weigh if cast from 10-1 or 16-1. Hopefully someone will do a report on it. Due to financial situation, that's the only way I'll ever know.

JMHO

Joe

 

[tek4260]

With the large HP pins they weigh 269 gr by my RCBS 1010 when cast from straight wheel weights.

 

[Dale53]

M"Bongo, you'll be glad you did. There will be a lot of "wailing and knashing of teeth" when the extras are all gone.

Dale53

 

[Hammerdown77]

Posts like this are slowly dragging me toward the precipice of the "cast your own" chasm...

 

[Arisin' Wind]

So how do we get one of these? I'm not a member of that forum and don't really want to join right now.

 

[tek4260]

It would be worth it to join 8)

 

[M'BOGO]

Posts like this are slowly dragging me toward the precipice of the "cast your own" chasm...

It isn't a bad thing...

 

[bigboredad]

it doesn't cost a thing to join and you just might learn something new. Btw it's a great mold and throw great bullets very easily

 

[Arokcrwlr]

I jumped in late ( as in a couple of weeks ago) and I already have my mold. I also have the .44 Keith H&G 503 and .41 Keith molds - they are extremely nice!

 

[Dale53]

ARisin' Wind;
"Joining" the forum costs nothing.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/

Just sign up and then send MiHec a Private Message on the forum and tell him you want the RCBS 45-270-SSA Cramer Style brass two cavity bullet mould. He'll need your email address to write back and give you the link to send money. The moulds are finished and he typically ships the next business day. It generally takes a couple of weeks to get the mould as it comes from Slovenia.

Dale53

 

[Arisin' Wind]

Well I joined up and sent a PM and e-mail. That is a fine looking bullet and the praise for the mold is top notch.

 

[CraigC]

it doesn't cost a thing to join and you just might learn something new. Btw it's a great mold and throw great bullets very easily

Ha, ha, ha...never let anybody tell you it's costs "nothing" to join any shooting-related forum. Gun forums are exactly why I'm broke!

 

[yankee7809]

it doesn't cost a thing to join and you just might learn something new. Btw it's a great mold and throw great bullets very easily

Ha, ha, ha...never let anybody tell you it's costs "nothing" to join any shooting-related forum. Gun forums are exactly why I'm broke!

I heard that for sure! :lol:

 

[bigboredad]

well good point as I did buyt hat brass mold since I joined :lol: