Saddlesniffer
Bearcat
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I just bought an old ruger .44 carbine. Having trouble with it cycling properly. Any suggestions??
44 carbine
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ArmedinAZ
Buckeye
These rifles were designed to run on 240g full power ammo. Start there. If it's dirty inside or had a lot of rounds shot it could need a detail strip & clean, the gas system could be plugged.
wunbe
Buckeye
If it is case of worn parts, it could be tough finding replacements as Ruger stopped that backup service long ago.
wunbe
wunbe
Jimbo357mag
Hawkeye
Good article on how to strip and clean the Ruger Carbine. You won't find this info anywhere else that I know of.ArmedinAZ said:
http://hunting.about.com/od/guns/ig/Ruger-44-Carbine-Instructions/
A good factory ammo is Winchester White Box 240gr softpoints.
Dantforth
Blackhawk
I also just got an old 44 magnum carbine. First chore was to completely strip and soak in paint thinner overnight. The next morning I used an automotive parts cleaner brush to scrub everything. I then used compressed air to blow the assemblies clean. No oil as such upon reassembly but one of the new high tech lubes which wont gum things up. The clear paint thinner was black with about a sixteenth of sludge on the bottom. It shot as new when assembled, with Remington 240grain hollow points (Code R44MG3). These are the only ammo I use. Oh, I have tried all the others but have found that none give the performance these do. Good luck. David
Good info in these replies. As ArmedinAZ said these rifles were designed to run on 240g full power JACKETD ammo. Lead ammo will foul the gas port at some point. I shoot 240gr bonded hollow points from Doubletap Ammo with excellent results.
http://www.doubletapammo.net/index.php?route=product/product&path=125_195&product_id=117
The video Chief 101 posted is excellent. Note the part about cleaning the gas port with a pipe cleaner at the 9:20 mark (the gas port is a small hole in the barrel between the bore and the gas cylinder). You will probably get a lot of gunk out of yours. Also note the part about not using too much oil at the 10:33 mark. Like Dantforth, I don’t use any oil on mine. I use Prolix which is a cleaner that leaves a dry lubricant behind after it dries. The gunsmith in the video recommends Q20 Blu.
http://www.doubletapammo.net/index.php?route=product/product&path=125_195&product_id=117
The video Chief 101 posted is excellent. Note the part about cleaning the gas port with a pipe cleaner at the 9:20 mark (the gas port is a small hole in the barrel between the bore and the gas cylinder). You will probably get a lot of gunk out of yours. Also note the part about not using too much oil at the 10:33 mark. Like Dantforth, I don’t use any oil on mine. I use Prolix which is a cleaner that leaves a dry lubricant behind after it dries. The gunsmith in the video recommends Q20 Blu.
I ran a couple of loads over the Chrono just for giggles and came up with some excellent noumbers...the best shooting load being the 180gr. Sierra. I ran a 240 grain cast lead load the gave good numbers but shot bad and a 220gr Sierra bullet that also gave good numbers but shot bad. This you can see is impressive.
Series 5 Shots: 5 ruger 44 Carbine
Min 2049 Max 2068
Avg 2057 SD-9
ES 19
180 Sie H110
Series Shot Speed
5 1 2050 ft/sec
5 2 2066 ft/sec
5 3 2054 ft/sec
5 4 2049 ft/sec
5 5 2068 ft/sec
This particular load shot quite accurately where as a couple other loads with just as good of numbers shot wildly. I hear some say these Carbines are made for 240 grain bullets, well, not mine...
Series 5 Shots: 5 ruger 44 Carbine
Min 2049 Max 2068
Avg 2057 SD-9
ES 19
180 Sie H110
Series Shot Speed
5 1 2050 ft/sec
5 2 2066 ft/sec
5 3 2054 ft/sec
5 4 2049 ft/sec
5 5 2068 ft/sec
This particular load shot quite accurately where as a couple other loads with just as good of numbers shot wildly. I hear some say these Carbines are made for 240 grain bullets, well, not mine...
Dantforth
Blackhawk
Cheif101........have you tried Remington R44MG3? Over the years I have tried most everything at one time or another. I have found nothing which shoots as well and nothing (240's) which has any more power. Leaves a deer on the ground every time. I purchased mine new in 1966 new at $124.00. The only repair has been the trigger group housing which cracked and was repaired by a factory depot.
Dantforth, are you still using your Carbine? It is easy to carry and a great truck rifle. No I haven't tried factory loads as I only have loaded and reloaded ammo since the mid 70's. I will run out of these soon as they are factory seconds I picked up in 1979 I will surely try loading the Rems along with a few other brands, tho I can't discount what has workd so far. I'm not thinkin of shooting Wapiti with this so power isn't a problem...never hurts to have more power. Thanks for the recommendation...Chief aka Maxx Load
After a long search I found a "like new" .44 mag Deerfield c.2002, because it was like new, I paid a premium price, $1,100. I couldn't wait to go to the range with several different recipe hand loads. I couldn't get a clip of four to cycle w/o a jam. So I bought four boxes of different factory ammo. All jammed just as the hand loads. I really wanted this gun to be right, so I sent it to the factory (Ruger) for repair. The factory informed me they could not fix the gun, they would however offer a replacement at no cost to me. Very generous offer! I selected the Mini 30 in 7.62x39. I really wanted a semi-auto in as large a caliber as they offered.
I've had the new out to the range and it didn't jam, shot a reasonable group, recoil was mild. A pretty nice carbine, however I would still prefer to have the .44 Deerfield, if the problem could have been diagnosed and repaired. All that said, Ruger is quite reliable factory, standing behind their product, unusual in today's business climate.
I've had the new out to the range and it didn't jam, shot a reasonable group, recoil was mild. A pretty nice carbine, however I would still prefer to have the .44 Deerfield, if the problem could have been diagnosed and repaired. All that said, Ruger is quite reliable factory, standing behind their product, unusual in today's business climate.
WASATCH CHARLIE
Bearcat
RELOADING TIME INCLUDED????????rlott said:Let's see your 44 carbines:
10 rounds rapid fire @ 100 yards:
I purchased a like new .44 Deerfield, the carbine was beautiful. It would not cycle one clip of four without a jam. It was clean, like new. I tried several hand loads and several factory loads, all jammed. I sent it to the factory and Ruger said it could not be fixed, being the great company they are, they offered me a replacement rifle at no charge to me.... Still, I would love to have that rifle in good working order, it's a thing of beauty.
