30-06 Caliber!!!!

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I heard a man bad mouth the 30-06 yesterday ( saculage) heres what he said, Ifn you own a 30-06 you have no need for any other caliber or other Rifles the 30-06 will kill everything in the USA, I got to have more than ONE RIFLE.
 
How is that bad-mouthing the 30-06? And he is pretty much right- it will do the job as a universal caliber/cartridge for game hunting. But it's about variety in my book, so gotta have more than just one!
 
I do have a 30-06 rifle. It's a 1917 Winchester made Enfield. Just lately got a Marlin 1894 .44mag, so can no longer say it's my only rifle, sorta. I think the initial post was kinda tongue-in-cheek.
 
chuck said:
I heard a man bad mouth the 30-06 yesterday ( saculage) heres what he said, Ifn you own a 30-06 you have no need for any other caliber or other Rifles the 30-06 will kill everything in the USA, I got to have more than ONE RIFLE.

By the same token so will the old 30-30. Of course it would be rather difficult to shoot a quail with either 30 caliber and find enough meat left to roast. I wonder if the person you heard also believes since a person only needs so much money to live he need not be paid more than that amount. Or since the speed limit is rarely higher than 70 an engine that will propel a car any faster there is no need for it.

But to each their own, maybe that guy likes the idea of one size fits all and has decided to live that way. More power to him. I want the best tool for the job and that means a full tool box.
 
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I still think the .30-06 is one of the luckiest inventions in history. Someone took the .30-03, put a spritzer bullet in it, and found the caliber people would be still be using 110 years later with excellent results.

Isn't that like finding a 100 year old woman who can win the Miss America contest?
 
Pal Val said:
Isn't that like finding a 100 year old woman who can win the Miss America contest?

Hi,

Ah, yes, guns and girls! Had a girlfriend once who compared men and their guns to men and their women:

She figured if guys would stick to one gun like most do to one woman, they'd probably become really good shots. However, if they'd lavish as much attention and care on their women as they do their guns, they might not have any time, or ENERGY--nudge, nudge, wink, wink--to even go shooting...

Hmmm...

Rick C
 
Elmer would say, and I hate to talk for him, neck it up to .33 and ya got something. Ole Townsend would say neck it up to .35 and we'll talk.
 
I have hunted going on 53 years. The first 25 or so I hunted with a Remington 721 chambered in 30-06. I took many deer and elk, a black bear, and numerous coyotes with that rifle. To this day, it is my Son's primary hunting rifle. In the time I owned that rifle, I never felt under gunned and was never disappointed by it's performance. If I had to have just one rifle for all my hunting, it would be a 30-06.

All that being said, when I was able to afford the luxury of buying and hunting with any center fire rifle I wanted, I found my success rate didn't improve, and the animals I harvested were taken no more effectively then they had with the old '06. It IS more fun to use something different, but bottom line no more effective.

Dave
 
Rick Courtright said:
Pal Val said:
Isn't that like finding a 100 year old woman who can win the Miss America contest?

Hi,

Ah, yes, guns and girls! Had a girlfriend once who compared men and their guns to men and their women:

She figured if guys would stick to one gun like most do to one woman, they'd probably become really good shots. However, if they'd lavish as much attention and care on their women as they do their guns, they might not have any time, or ENERGY--nudge, nudge, wink, wink--to even go shooting...

Hmmm...

Rick C

Guns are more..... co-operative...... :? Yeah, that's the word, I think. Let me go ask my wife. :lol:
 
sebtool said:
Guns are more..... co-operative...... :? Yeah, that's the word, I think. Let me go ask my wife. :lol:

Hi,

Whatever you do, DON'T show her that "10 reasons a gun's better than a woman" list that used to float around our range! And the guys wondered why Mama wouldn't let 'em in the house... :shock:

Rick C
 
I guess I'm qualified to comment since I just bought a Bolt Action Savage rifle in 30-06 from a fellow member here.... I had brought home my father's M1 Garand last month and thought that puppy packed a kick until I fired 14 rounds through the extra light Savage.... as far as I can tell the 30-06 is good out to at least 400 yards.... then again, my father claimed an '03 Springfield with the right scope was 'good' out to a mile. The proven fact I know is he was good with an M1 out to a thousand yards or better. He shot a perfect score at Paris Island is about 1948... he never talked about the '03 Springfield they issued him in Korea.
 
My deer rifle is an old post 64 model 70 in .30-06. I have complete faith in it. I do think if one lived in Alaska a bigger rifle might be a good idea but for my purposes it has always worked. I really only have 2 centerfire rifles. One is my .30-06, the other is an old 7mm Spanish Mauser a guy I used to work with gave me years ago. Kinda interesting since the U.S. government was sued for patent infringement by Mauser after it developed the .30-06.
 
I have tried a bunch of different ammo in my Garand with the Smith muzzle break on it. From Remington 55gr Accelerators to 110gr spritzers, 130gr spritzers, 150, 165, 180 & 200gr bullets over reasonable velocity amounts of IMR 4064 or 3031. best accuracy and flat shooting was the 165gr Federal Premium with either Nosler Partitions or Trophy Bonded Bearclaw bullets or some Norma with Barnes 165gr I found at a gunshow awhile back.
I wondered if cast bullet loads at low velocity would harm my gas system, but with the Smith Brake on it, I figure it might not. As good as it shoots with 165gr, I will not change and would not hesitate to hunt Elk with it.
 
I agree the mighty 06 is hard to top in my book. I have 4 and my 2nd choice is the ole 30-30 I have 6.one a Winchester model 54 bolt gun made 1930
 
My first centerfire rifle was a Springfield '03. A good one, four groove barrel and milled parts one of the early ones. I ordered it mail order from Montgomery Ward's catalog, it cost me $36.00 plus five bucks shipping in 1962. It came in a wood box which when opened was lined with waterproofed paper inside of which was a big lump of cosmoline. After digging a bit I discovered the rifle was definitely embedded in that big lump. I spent a whole afternoon getting that rifle out of the gunk that it had been stored in so many years. The next day I tested it out with the surplus ammo, 800rds from Montgomery Wards ($26.00). I ended up loving that rifle, it was good with the military sights well out past 400yds which was the farthest out I measured on the sea ice where I set up my target. Over the next 25 years I shot Dahl mountain sheep, caribou, bear and moose with that rifle. I thought about sporterizing it but decided to leave it as it was. To this day I regret selling that rifle, I really miss it today. I still think the 30-06 and .308 are two of the best all 'round cartridges for anything on the North American continent.
 
I find the 30.06 to be everything I need and want from a bolt action rifle. I do rely on my old turty turty around the ranch, though. .357 - GP100, of course - is the perfect companion to the 30.06 when in the field. .45 acp for CC. Throw in an 870 12 ga. and my needs are met. Do I limit myself to just these calibers? Nah, but when it comes down to brass tacks, those are all I need.

Peace and God bless, Wolfsong.
 
Well, FOr some reason, I'm kinda partial to my 3 Brit Enfield 303's; aint never gone hunting with them and they aint "sporterized" But the sure do put it out there. It must be a good design, it lasted through THREE wars plus. I also have a French Maas 7.5 mm which shoots decent and is zero'd at 200 yards. It holds five rounds and the action is smooth; forget the MFG date on it. Of course my Super duper all time favorite is my Grandfathers Win model 94 30-30 saddle carbine from 1926/27; she sure is a joy to shoot and I know he went deer hunting with it.
 

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