22ARC

[Shooter III]

I am so disappointed with Ruger's quality these days, let me begin my ramble .. .. ..

A year ago, I bought my son an American .308 with the Vortex 3 X 9 scope for his birthday / Christmas.
I chose to sight it in before I gave it to him, as what loads of people think, "the American series of rifles is a good inexpensive starter rifle" Anyway ... I was impressed with a wee-bit of a under an inch 3-shot group at 100 yds.
Hence; I decided to purchase an American .270 for myself, the cycling of the action was well below standard operating procedure, it would pick-up rounds and ram them into the wall of the chamber and drive the bullet into the case deep enough that it became unsafe to fire the round, afterwards I found lots of info regarding this issue with the long action / rotary mags going as far back as a few years with no fix from Ruger, I immediately took it back to Cabela's the next day for a full refund and upgraded to Tikka T3x, I'm super happy with the Tikka.
AND ... I didn't learn enough from that debacle, the other day I bought another Ruger American, this time a GEN 2 in .22ARC, the action functions, it feeds, fires, and ejects rounds ... BUT ... I have to be rough and abrupt when cycling the bolt to get the extractor to bump over the rim of the cartridge, I've taken the bolt out of the firearm to check the operation of the spring / ball detent / extractor and it is difficult to move and sticks in the up position and comes back into place with a little push.
Regardless of Americans being a budget rifle I would expect better quality from Ruger !!!!
SIDE NOTE: I own a 10/22, Mark III pistol, and a GP100, No more of loyalty or $$$.$$ will be given to the Ruger corporation, Tikka here I come !!!

 

[PRichardson87]

It's no secret here, new Rugers have way more problems then they should. Today's world is quantity over quality. That's how you stay in the game and hope your excellent customer service will take care of the rest.

 

[XUSNORDIE]

Holy smokes how hard was it to push the bolt forward? It was so stiff that it couldn't be noticed you were actually seating the bullet? Maybe some size lube would have worked.....

Not a long action but my American Predator in .204R would sometimes strip from the mag awkwardly if not loaded properly. Each time was my own fault....night hunts in frigid JAN/FEB with numb fingers. Learned real fast to have several extra mags pre loaded on hunts and tournaments.

 

[hittman]

Nobody’s gonna suggest a 250 round “break in”?

 

[Shooter III]

It's no secret here, new Rugers have way more problems then they should. Today's world is quantity over quality. That's how you stay in the game and hope your excellent customer service will take care of the rest.

True, I'd rather spend my money within the USA, yet Tikka makes a flawless firearm and that's why I'll be going with them.

 

[Shooter III]

Nobody's gonna suggest a 250 round "break in"?

I call BS on todays over-stated need to break in a firearm ... back in the late 60's and 70's a "break in" was never heard of.

 

[Shooter III]

Furthermore, like many of us here in Western Montana the Tikka's have ZERO issues right from the start.

 

[PRichardson87]

Tikka is a much better rifle than the American, however it's also in a much different price bracket for that quality. Now a Sako, well my oh my

 

[Shooter III]

Holy smokes how hard was it to push the bolt forward? It was so stiff that it couldn't be noticed you were actually seating the bullet? Maybe some size lube would have worked.....

Not a long action but my American Predator in .204R would sometimes strip from the mag awkwardly if not loaded properly. Each time was my own fault....night hunts in frigid JAN/FEB with numb fingers. Learned real fast to have several extra mags pre loaded on hunts and tournaments.

what is size lube ?

 

[Shooter III]

Tikka is a much better rifle than the American, however it's also in a much different price bracket for that quality. Now a Sako, well my oh my

I totally agree with your statement. AND ... a buddy of my has a 20-year old Ruger 7mm bolt-action (forgot model #) that is a quality rifle, action was butter smooth out'a the box and sub 1 inch groups @ 100 yrds to this day.

 

[XUSNORDIE]

what is size lube ?

It was a sarcastic, good natured reference to reloading/seating bullets as the description/force you mentioned sounded like a pulling the press handle on a sticking case.....don't mind me, I've been booed of a stage or two.

 

[Shooter III]

It was a sarcastic, good natured reference to reloading/seating bullets as the description/force you mentioned sounded like a pulling the press handle on a sticking case.....don't mind me, I've been booed of a stage or two.

LOL, The only thing I've reloaded is shotgun shells and they are simple to reload.

 

[Shooter III]

Holy smokes how hard was it to push the bolt forward? It was so stiff that it couldn't be noticed you were actually seating the bullet? Maybe some size lube would have worked.....

Not a long action but my American Predator in .204R would sometimes strip from the mag awkwardly if not loaded properly. Each time was my own fault....night hunts in frigid JAN/FEB with numb fingers. Learned real fast to have several extra mags pre loaded on hunts and tournaments.

Regarding the American .270

At first I was operating the bolt in what I would call a normal force and noticed the round was not going into the chamber, consequently I took the Hornady round out of the firearm and noticed the plastic tip was bent. Then I started using a little more force and that's when I noticed the round seating the bullet deeper due to it hitting the face of the chamber.

 

[jyo]

Sadly, I too have noticed a decline in Ruger QC, and ALL my first new firearms bought back when I was younger were Rugers! You want to buy an American-made gun and you expect it to at least function properly... For many years, during my random collecting of guns, I collected OM Ruger Flattop revolvers and early Ruger 22 single-action revolvers---quality was first-rate, and I don't remember a single issue with any of them---and they were purchased used (but minty). These days, it seems, the idea is to manufacture as many as possible, and let CS fix 'em---an expensive way to solve problems...
Lucky me, my early Ruger Mini 14s GB Models still run perfectly, as does my pre-warning 10-22 Deluxe Sporter... I still prefer my stainless Security Six over the current GP-100s, but that's just personal preference...

 

[Joe Chartreuse]

I have a Ruger American bolt action .22/250, which uses a rotating 4 round mag. Never a problem, very dependable. No problems with either size LPC. I have others, all just fine. The only Ruger issue that I ever had was with the original .22 Marksman ( Mark 1?) pistol decades ago. Constant jams. But that was a LONG time ago. I have nothing but admiration for my Rugers, and they are my go-tos in those categories.

 

[Gator89]

Bergara, check them out some time.

 

[Hvymax]

It's no secret here, new Rugers have way more problems then they should. Today's world is quantity over quality. That's how you stay in the game and hope your excellent customer service will take care of the rest.

And we were hoping it would make Marlin better!!!

 

[Hvymax]

My Ruger Max9 is the first gun I've had to send back to be fixed. So far so good since.

 

[Sam Summey]

My Ruger Max9 is the first gun I've had to send back to be fixed. So far so good since.

I have been in the gunsmith business since 2005, I have sent one maybe two handguns back to Ruger, Ruger has sent me maybe 2 parts to fix Ruger handguns. During the same time period I have sent numerous revolvers, semi-autos back to Taurus to be repaired or because of recall. The recalled handguns were predominantly semi-autos and a few revolvers (unfixable Raging Bull that took more than a year to replace). Kel-Tec used to send me parts to fix their firearms predominantly PT-AT 380 firing pins. Now I have to send them back to FL. I just checked the availability of the P3-AT isn't even made anymore. I guess you could say Ruger finished eating their lunch with the LCP-Max.

 

[larry8]

I purchased new a 44 Redhawk and a super Redhawk about 4 months ago and have no problems and I think they are the most well built revolvers made.

 

[Shooter III]

*** UPDATE ***

I took the extractor out of the bolt and polished the face where the rim of the cartridge would be jumping under the extractor. I also polished the back of the extractor where the "ball detent" sits.
Additionally, from my research the ball detent is 3.5mm in diameter, this combination of spring / ball / extractor creates a very tight fit. Hence; I went on Amazon and found 3mm stainless steel balls for sale, I had to purchase 100 for around $5.00
After, the polish and 3mm ball installed the operation is only a wee-bit better, good enough to use in the field, yet not up to the quality I would expect from Ruger and still not on par with my Tikka T3x. For the future, if I require a need for another rifle I'll spend my money overseas with Tikka.

 

[rcs9250]

I purchased a Ruger American Gen II Predator .308WIN in October. I have not had it to the range but I have cycled rounds through it with no issues, but they have not been fired so hopefully will find out soon.

 

[XUSNORDIE]

I purchased a Ruger American Gen II Predator .308WIN in October. I have not had it to the range but I have cycled rounds through it with no issues, but they have not been fired so hopefully will find out soon.

Just keep in mind they are entry level/budget type rifles......not Tikkas

The reason I went with the American Pred was because I knew it was going to get thrashed pretty hard.

 

[Mobuck]

The 22ARC parent case is the 6.5 Grendel. My Ruger 6.5 Grendel has been problematic since day one. Seems to be a fact of life.
What type of magazine feed does your rifle use?