223 primer question

[Jayhawkhuntclub]

Well I screwed up. I painstakingly loaded up some Noslers with IMR 4198. When I was done, I realized I used Winchester standard small "pistol" primers, instead of Winchester standard small rifle primers. I'm pretty sure they'll work fine. Size wise they are the same. I could pull them all and start over. Any thoughts?

 

[sourdough44]

I tried some small pistol primers in MODEST 204 Ruger rifle loads. These loads presented no adverse issues. No I'm not recommending doing so, just did some testing.

Some may depend on how hot your loads are. The correct answer may be to pull them. If they are reasonable loads I'd be inclined to shoot a few.

Then we have to back up to make sure your quality control is better next time.

 

[gmartinnc]

Might be ok like they are, but I don't like "might be ok" for my reloading.
I would pull the bullets and start over.

 

[Rick Courtright]

Might be ok like they are, but I don't like "might be ok" for my reloading.
I would pull the bullets and start over.

Hi,

Same here. Since even "mild" .223 loads seem to be up there at the top end of most handgun pressures, I'd offer it's a "maybe, maybe not" on the safety issue. A lot of you guys already know how I feel about "maybes" w/ stuff that goes "Boom" real close to my face... if you're in doubt, re-read gmartinnc's comments!

I find my quality control has always improved after some time spent correcting mistakes, too!

Rick C

 

[Jayhawkhuntclub]

Well I decided to pay the price of being an idiot. I'm pulling them. These are partitions that I'm loading for deer. If it was a target load, I'd be more inclined to shoot 'em up.

 

[swampcrawler]

So, I've got to ask. Is the "small pistol" primer hotter than a "small rifle magnum" primer.
G

 

[98Redline]

It is not an issue of how much priming compound is in the primer or whether or not the primer would actually ignite the charge but more of a factor of the construction of the primer cup. A SPP has a shorter and thinner cup than a SRP. This means that it will seat deep in a rifle primer pocket and has more of a chance of being pierced or blowing out due to the pressure of the rifle round.

It is similar going the other direction as well. SRP seated in pistol cases can sit proud of the end of the case which could cause them to be hit hard enough to ignite during handgun recoil.

In either case, it is not a good situation.

 

[6gun]

I would fire a few and see how they shoot, I think you'll be OK, I've heard of people using pistol primers when they couldn't get rifle primers, I don't think you'll notice any difference when you fire them.

 

[6gun]

So, I've got to ask. Is the "small pistol" primer hotter than a "small rifle magnum" primer.
G

No the small magnum rifle primer is hotter, most of the primers Winchester is making now day works for both standard and magnum.

 

[swampcrawler]

It is not an issue of how much priming compound is in the primer or whether or not the primer would actually ignite the charge but more of a factor of the construction of the primer cup. A SPP has a shorter and thinner cup than a SRP. This means that it will seat deep in a rifle primer pocket and has more of a chance of being pierced or blowing out due to the pressure of the rifle round.

It is similar going the other direction as well. SRP seated in pistol cases can sit proud of the end of the case which could cause them to be hit hard enough to ignite during handgun recoil.

In either case, it is not a good situation.

Thank you. That puts it in perspective for me.
G