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I have a brand new 22/45rp that I havent shot yet. I am supposed to go to the range tomorrow with some friends. I decidec to try and break it down to clean factory shipping greas off of it.

I cannot get the bolt retaining pin out of the gun!!! I have it about half way out, and it wont move either way! What can I do???
 
They can definitely be a bit "sticky" when new!

EDIT: I just realized this pistol is probably a MKIII, with which I have no experience. There might be an extra step or two in field stripping the MKIII series.

With that disclaimer, here's what I do with my MKII pistols:

It's hard for me to describe, but I hold the barrel in one hand, and the mainspring in the other. I kind of use the mainspring as a lever to pull the bolt retaining pin down and out. If you try a couple of different handholds on the project, you should be able to find a way to do it without putting much sideways/twisting pressure on things- just straight down.

Alternately, can you use a brass punch to tap it straight down from the hole in the top of the tubular receiver?

A few disassembly/assembly cycles should loosen things up a bit.

Good luck!
 
Uncle Howie said:
Alternately, can you use a brass punch to tap it straight down from the hole in the top of the tubular receiver?

A few disassembly/assembly cycles should loosen things up a bit.

Good luck!
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I too had the same issues mentioned when I field-stripped my 22/45 for the first time. But I used a wooden dowel the first couple times I disassembled the pistol. After a few times, the mainspring housing that you remove from the grip frame will come out with little effort by hand.

Actually, that is the easiest part at first. When you go to remove the receiver from the grip frame, it will take some decent taps from your mallet to separate the two. My favorite method is to hold the grip frame in one hand and the barrel in the other hand. Once you have removed the bolt, take a 2x4 and lay it in something solid, like a concrete basement floor or patio. Strike the TOP egde of the receiver against the edge of the 2x4. As you hit the 2x4, apply force using your hand holding the grip frame as if you were trying to push the grip frame off the receiver. Eventually it will separate and by holding each part in each hand, there is no worry about one falling off the other and hitting something.
 
Well now it seems to be a biggier problem! I tapped the bottom of the pin back in place, and then was closing cam and it stopped. I cannot move cam either way, and the pin is not all the way through bolt and is pushing receiver away from frame should I go for a brass punch?

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m141/jgr1974/rugerpistol.jpg
 
Are trying now to assemble or disassemble? Either way, I'm thinking you should remove the mainspring housing and start over again.

If your magazine is removed and hammer is uncocked, gently tap down on the
bolt stop pin. You shouldn't have to move the bolt stop very far downwards to be able to swing the mainspring housing away from the grip. Now the pin should come all the way out.

I would use a piece of 1/8 or 1/4 dowel ILO of a brass punch.
 
dissasemble
got cam back in position, now safety and trigger do not work
cannot open cam all the way up
 
The trigger and the saftey won't work unless the gun is cocked and the magazine is inserted.

Now is your bolt stop pin inserted all the way up into the barrel/receiver?


http://www.guntalk-online.com/2245detailstripping.htm
 
And when all else fails, read the owner's manual. I know, I know, owner manuals are just another guys' opinion, but... Read the dis assembly section twice or more if necessary. The step by step instructions work.

I was in the same situation with a Mark II when I first bought it. In fact, I wore out the owner's manual with greasy fingers and had to request another from Ruger.
 
Well I went to a friend for help! I did read the manual but still didn't work. The friend is an older guy who has done about everything, he called me ten minutes after i left his house and said come pick it up i just put three rounds through it and it functions just fine!

Thank you everyone for youor help!
 
Glad to hear everything worked out ok. But the best advice I can give you is to keep field-stripping the pistol from time to time. I recommend once a week for the next month or so. After a while, it will loosen up and everything will merely slide right into place.
 
Lamplighter said:
Fox Mike said:
Go here and download the instruction manual:
http://www.ruger.com/products/_manuals/markIII.pdf

The MK III 22/45 is a wee bit different than the MKIII.
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Ah, :roll: the dude has a brand new gun. He probably has the manual.
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Then he probably didn't follow the directions written there. I have a 22/45RP that I have taken apart numerous times, by carefully following the directions given in the manual.
 
I'd go back and ask the friend to show you "how"......some of us "older guys" happen to like to show off, just "how its done"...better than trying to write or type all the info down or trying to tell someone over the phone........... :roll:
 
I hate to ask, but what's the worse situation from putting it back together incorrectly? I've disassembled it 2 or 3 times over the last month, but this time I did something incorrect. After I reassembled it I tried to dry fire and I noticed the bolt was tight when I pulled it back and it did not dry fire. I tried to open the main spring but it won't fully open. I also tried to punch the main spring pin down but it won't move at hall, even with a good strike? I may be gun smith bound, or worse.
 
goodewalker, Maybe this trouble shooting guide will help you. Be sure to click on the minature camera icons if you need pictures!

http://guntalk-online.com/TroubleshootingPage.htm
 
Thanks, close but no cigar, I think it's close to item 6, bolt won't cycle. I can take out my main spring about a 1/4" but it stops dead. When I pull back the bolt with a clip I have to push it forward, but the hammer won't drop.
 
Did you try step # 1...., inserting the empty magazine and striking the muzzle on a padded block of wood while squeezing the trigger to drop the hammer?
 
Yes, striking it pretty good against a hard rubber mallet while pulling the trigger. Even gave it several whacks from the bolt end.

I noticed that while the main spring is in position and I insert the mag it's really tight. If I take the main spring out 1/4" (to it max) the mag goes in really easy.

I've already tried to punch the main spring out with the main spring latch out 1/4". Wonder if I should pry it with a crow-bar..............
 
With a mag in, I can pull back the bolt and it stops, when I press the bolt stop down nothing happens, but I can push on the bolt and it will drive forward?
 
It's sounding like the hammer strut is not inserted into the oval cutout inside of the mainspring housing. The only thing I can think of without looking at it, is to disassemble and start over again. I assume you have the manual to refer to, correct?
 
I wish I could have been more help. Keep an eye on this thread, I'm sure someone will come along with a solution.
 
I've heard

Rugers are so complex that field stripping should only be done by a master gunsmith.
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Not knowing any better, I immediately started field stripping my first Ruger. Took a while to get it apart and back together and I was never really sure that the manual was talking about the MKIII Hunter. With a bit of technical language and perseverance I got it back together and then repeated it 3 times.

Then I found these instructions
http://www.guntalk-online.com/fsprocedures.htm

There are a number of good video instructions about
Ruger's videos are pretty good. You can find them here http://www.ruger.com/resources/videos.html

and this video has been very popular
http://www.1bad69.com/ruger/field_strip_quick.htm

With a bit of practice you can field strip and reassemble a MKIII in a minute, thereby becoming a "master gunsmith" I suppose.
 
I took it to a very very old gun smith and he fixed it as described in Dr Bullseye's Troubleshooting Chart. See Item 1 on Main Spring.

http://guntalk-online.com/TroubleshootingPage.htm

The tip of the hammer strut must be inserted inside the main spring housing.

I'm going to watch this video several more times before I try it again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fIYIWK0boo

Thanks for the suggestions, I should have tried harder :oops:
 
I figured the hammer strut was causing you the problem not being seated. So how did he get the mainspring housing out of the receiver?
 
You need to decock the hammer. This is done by:
1. Insert mag (MKIII)
2. Hold pistol vertical, muzzle down
3. Depress the trigger
4. rap the muzzle with sharp downward strokes onto a padded surface.

This may take a number of very sharp raps on the padded surface. I've used a carpeted floor.

Described in the guntalk-online link
 
greener said:
You need to decock the hammer. This is done by:
1. Insert mag (MKIII)
2. Hold pistol vertical, muzzle down
3. Depress the trigger
4. rap the muzzle with sharp downward strokes onto a padded surface.

This may take a number of very sharp raps on the padded surface. I've used a carpeted floor.

Described in the guntalk-online link
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You must not have read the last half of the thread :) I believe the problem had already been solved prior to your post!
 
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