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There is 2 LR cylinders on Gunbroker on the first page of Ruger Single Six parts, and there is 35 pages that I didn't look at.
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Springfield52
Bearcat
Thanks...I'll try that.
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Springfield52
Bearcat
Is yours a New Model Single Six? Mine is an old model, and I'd hesitate to send it in to Ruger...I wouldn't want them to install a transfer bar.
I have a couple kits I put in mine when I send them in, then put the original back in when I get it back.
LDB
Blackhawk
Little Johnny had a habit of jumping off the roof. He'd brag he did so XX times no problem. After his latest brag he was seen a few days later on crutches with a cast to his knee. How much did your gun cost? Do you have that much to throw in the trash? Worst case, do you have good insurance? Write Ruger and ask. If they say have at it then go for it. If they say don't, I'd quit.
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Springfield52
Bearcat
Good point. I believe it was a new model.
Or (especially if you want an 8-shot) http://rugercyl.com/ruger-cylinders/
Jennygirl
Bearcat
I think your shooting is just fine!
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Springfield52
Bearcat
Thank you so much...I didn't think my posted targets were too bad, but I was soon told otherwise, as apparently almost everyone on here can make one small ragged hole at 50 yards...I think your shooting is just fine!
Get a room..... 
FIFY
What fun is life if we cannot jest...
Thank you so much...I didn't think my posted targets were too bad, but I was soon told otherwise, as apparently almost everyone on here can make one small ragged hole at5010 yards...
FIFY
What fun is life if we cannot jest...
Thank you so much...I didn't think my posted targets were too bad, but I was soon told otherwise, as apparently almost everyone on here can make one small ragged hole at 50 yards...
Ragged? @ 50?......rookies.......should be one clean hole no bigger than a scoring plug....and that's one handed on a ARA target....
But seriously....your targets at 10 yds for a beginner is pretty decent. Keep practicing. Focus on mechanics and for the love of God the correct ammo for the given gun.
I am by far no expert, but your 10 yard target looks to be more sight picture related. If you were pulling or pushing with trigger pull, I would expect to see the shots further right or left. One of the first things I was taught was consistent sight picture. Then adjust to put shots on target. Take plenty of ammo, and practice. The further you extend the range, the more critical it becomes. Don't get bummed by criticism, just keep practicing. Good luck. I love my om single six's.
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Springfield52
Bearcat
There's jesting, and then there's snarky...Get a room.....
FIFY
What fun is life if we cannot jest...
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Springfield52
Bearcat
On these targets, I was trying to establish POI by adjusting my sight picture...from 6 o' clock to bullseye hold...with 2 very different styles of ammunition.
contender
Ruger Guru
"On these targets, I was trying to establish POI by adjusting my sight picture...from 6 o' clock to bullseye hold...with 2 very different styles of ammunition."
Ok,, there's a bit more info & details that make a difference.
The two different types of ammo do contribute to poorer accuracy in many guns. Definitely a contributing factor.
Now,, the two different sighting pictures. Here's where we can offer a tidbit of info & help.
When teaching,, I discuss the "Bullseye vs the 6 o'clock hold." I start with a 6" diameter bullseye target. And ask; "Where do you aim to get a center hit?"
I get all kinds of answers. Usual answer is at the center of it.
The first thing is; "How far away is the target?" A 6" bullseye,,, at 10 yds is much bigger than it will appear at 50 yds or 100 yds. The target didn't change,, but the distance makes a big difference.
Then,, I put a 1" center aiming point in the middle of the 6" bullseye. Then I explain that you should use a 6 o'clock hold on the bottom edge of the 1" square. Proper sight alignment will allow the intended point of impact on the target to be visible, as it is the focal point of aiming. I also mention; "Aim small, miss small."
Your eyes can not focus upon 3 items at the very same time.
The sharpest focus should be your front sight. The rear sight will be slightly blurry,, while the biggest variable is the target. That is due to the varying distances the target may be at.
So the very same 6" bullseye will appear much smaller at 100 yds than at 10 yds.
You should have been aiming consistently at the 6 o'clock POINT of the red dot on that target, no matter what ammo you were using.
Ok,, there's a bit more info & details that make a difference.
The two different types of ammo do contribute to poorer accuracy in many guns. Definitely a contributing factor.
Now,, the two different sighting pictures. Here's where we can offer a tidbit of info & help.
When teaching,, I discuss the "Bullseye vs the 6 o'clock hold." I start with a 6" diameter bullseye target. And ask; "Where do you aim to get a center hit?"
I get all kinds of answers. Usual answer is at the center of it.
The first thing is; "How far away is the target?" A 6" bullseye,,, at 10 yds is much bigger than it will appear at 50 yds or 100 yds. The target didn't change,, but the distance makes a big difference.
Then,, I put a 1" center aiming point in the middle of the 6" bullseye. Then I explain that you should use a 6 o'clock hold on the bottom edge of the 1" square. Proper sight alignment will allow the intended point of impact on the target to be visible, as it is the focal point of aiming. I also mention; "Aim small, miss small."
Your eyes can not focus upon 3 items at the very same time.
The sharpest focus should be your front sight. The rear sight will be slightly blurry,, while the biggest variable is the target. That is due to the varying distances the target may be at.
So the very same 6" bullseye will appear much smaller at 100 yds than at 10 yds.
You should have been aiming consistently at the 6 o'clock POINT of the red dot on that target, no matter what ammo you were using.
Ya know you could have stated that alibi a lot earlier...like post #4.....but then the entertainment value would have declined.....
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Springfield52
Bearcat
What, and preempt the critics?...no way...Ya know you could have stated that alibi a lot earlier...like post #4.....but then the entertainment value would have declined.....
TestEngineer
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A few things to address....
First, I don't think your shooting is terrible. It's just not great. You can and you will improve.
Second, ammo doesn't make much difference at 10 yards. Whatever you use, it's capable of 1" groups or smaller.
Third, it has been mentioned that consistency is key. This is VERY true, but it includes everything! Stance, grip, finger placement on the trigger, breathing, sight picture, and so on. Anything that changes can (and usually does) affect where the bullet hits.
Forth, target perception. Like the saying goes: aim small - shoot small. If you're aiming at an Olympic size swimming pool and you can hit it, what level of ability does that place you at? On the other hand, if you're shooting the right/front leg off of flies at the other end of the"cement pond", what level of ability does that place you at? Your 6" target is fine for sighting in. But it's awful for making small groups.
4A... My 10 yard targets consist of a half sheet of 8.5x11" paper with 1/4 of a 1.5" square sticky note taped to the middle. So my bull is a 3/4" square. My goal is to obliterate that square with as few of shots as possible.
4B... I find it very helpful to start with my target set out to 15 yards for the first magazine. After I bring it in to 10 yards, that bullseye looks HUGE!!! There's no way I can miss something that big!
Fifth, it has been mentioned to get some instruction. This is great advice for most people. But for some, just watching/studying/emulating an accomplished shooter may be enough. Everyone makes mistakes when shooting that can be fixed. Identifying your mistakes is where the challenge lies.
Sixth, dry fire practice has also been mentioned. I fully support this idea. The goal should be to have your sight picture not move when the hammer falls. If it does, you saved $$ by not wasting a live round.
I hope this helps you some
First, I don't think your shooting is terrible. It's just not great. You can and you will improve.
Second, ammo doesn't make much difference at 10 yards. Whatever you use, it's capable of 1" groups or smaller.
Third, it has been mentioned that consistency is key. This is VERY true, but it includes everything! Stance, grip, finger placement on the trigger, breathing, sight picture, and so on. Anything that changes can (and usually does) affect where the bullet hits.
Forth, target perception. Like the saying goes: aim small - shoot small. If you're aiming at an Olympic size swimming pool and you can hit it, what level of ability does that place you at? On the other hand, if you're shooting the right/front leg off of flies at the other end of the"cement pond", what level of ability does that place you at? Your 6" target is fine for sighting in. But it's awful for making small groups.
4A... My 10 yard targets consist of a half sheet of 8.5x11" paper with 1/4 of a 1.5" square sticky note taped to the middle. So my bull is a 3/4" square. My goal is to obliterate that square with as few of shots as possible.
4B... I find it very helpful to start with my target set out to 15 yards for the first magazine. After I bring it in to 10 yards, that bullseye looks HUGE!!! There's no way I can miss something that big!
Fifth, it has been mentioned to get some instruction. This is great advice for most people. But for some, just watching/studying/emulating an accomplished shooter may be enough. Everyone makes mistakes when shooting that can be fixed. Identifying your mistakes is where the challenge lies.
Sixth, dry fire practice has also been mentioned. I fully support this idea. The goal should be to have your sight picture not move when the hammer falls. If it does, you saved $$ by not wasting a live round.
I hope this helps you some
While I see the posts above criticizing the accuracy and blaming the skills of the shooter... I thought this was a discussion of shooting LR in a magnum cylinder. As just one poster suggested, accuracy could be severely affected just because of the wrong cylinder. And NO, I would never purposely shoot LR in magnum chambers.
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I had no idea these existed. I would definitely go this route if I needed a cylinder.
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Springfield52
Bearcat
As I stated earlier in this thread, I will never again shoot .22 LR ammunition in a .22 WMR cylinder...in fact I learned my lesson so thoroughly that I Shot the remainder of my .22 WMR ammo and traded the Single Six for a Hi-Standard Sport King Model 103 that shoots .22 LR exclusively.
Neon Vernon
Single-Sixer
I'm hesitant to say this, but we're going to need a range report on the Sport King. 
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Glad it worked out for you. Happy shooting!!
I'm hesitant to say this, but we're going to need a range report on the Sport King.
You need to specify "with a group using same POA"....
I came here to say something encouraging to you, but now....
Guess we will have to join a Hi Standard forum to see how he does.......especially if there are problems with the Sport Kings accuracy......
Hylander
Blackhawk
I have shot many rounds of .22lr through the mag cylinder with no issues.
Having said that, best to use the proper cylinder.
Having said that, best to use the proper cylinder.
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