JackBull
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What are your thoughts on the changing of STEM (Science, Tech, Engineering, Math) programs to STEAM by adding Arts? I believe it is a continued dumbing down of our education system.
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STEM is Now STEAM
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JackBull
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Glad you understood. My question has been updated for the educated.
contender
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While Arts is an important part of life,, it should be viewed as an elective,, not a required subject in schools. This way,, any student who has an interest in a particular form of art can CHOOSE to participate & study it. Schools should focus on teaching subjects that can prepare our kids for real life. Arts, sports, etc should be secondary & elective subjects.
bobski
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at lease we can red.
Redding is impotent.
Hertervillian
Saluki
Imagine industrial arts, or home economics being taught in schools again. If that goes well phys ed might make a comeback.
Why are previous generations held in such contempt? Founding fathers are ridiculed, a classic education same thing. I could go on for an hour, but let me just say, not everyone is suited to college.
Why are previous generations held in such contempt? Founding fathers are ridiculed, a classic education same thing. I could go on for an hour, but let me just say, not everyone is suited to college.
I don't think the STEAM is the STEAM your thinking of.
Social justice, Terrorist support, Equal outcomes, Alternative genders, Masked Protesting.
Social justice, Terrorist support, Equal outcomes, Alternative genders, Masked Protesting.
Of course everyone needs to go to college. Tech and trade schools don't indoctrinate Marxism.
but speeling is very important...
Y didnt eye think of dat?
Wel, I be edicated at a moderate level and 'arts' wasn't included.
I paint with a rattle can, my prose doesn't rhyme, and my my vocabulary isn't suitable for mixed company.
I paint with a rattle can, my prose doesn't rhyme, and my my vocabulary isn't suitable for mixed company.
I resemble that!!!Wel, I be edicated at a moderate level and 'arts' wasn't included.
I paint with a rattle can, my prose doesn't rhyme, and my my vocabulary isn't suitable for mixed company.
gramps
When I went to Greenville TEC in the late 1960s I studied Drafting and Design Technology (Mechanical). Many folks thought this takes artistic capabilities, wrong. I requires the ability to conceive a methodology to create a machine to accomplish a task and create diagrams that will allow the fabrication of the parts to create the machine. Art has nothing to do with it. Now the same course with an Architectural focus adds an ascetic aspect with the idea that the structure is sound and can be built.
My brother worked for Martin Marietta. Part of the time his job was to write manuals for radar repair for jets. When he first started, he wrote some notes his boss sent him back several times. Finally, his boss told him it has to be understandable for an 7th grader.
A degree in a STEM field gets you a high paying job in a technological field.
A degree in arts gets you a job at McDonalds.
But nobody wants to work at McDonalds when they can just get everything for free from the democrats. Not working gives them more time to protest for more free stuff.
A degree in arts gets you a job at McDonalds.
But nobody wants to work at McDonalds when they can just get everything for free from the democrats. Not working gives them more time to protest for more free stuff.
My tech career started at Martin Marietta! The big facility southwest of Denver. It was on 5100 acres in the foothills and had an employee shooting range! Based on the current political climate in Colorado, I reckon they (Lockheed Martin) must have had to shut that down.
We were always told that everything we designed had to be able to survive an 18-year-old Marine trying to use it or make it fit.
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Drafting, Design & Technology have never been considered "art" electives in my years around this planet. I took (3) years of Architectural Drafting in high school. In my 3rd year,, there were only (2) of us,, so we were in class with the 2nd year students. But our assignments were different. In fact, most of my 3rd year grades came from drawing actual house floor plans for a building company.
Art,, ha,,,,,, far from it. It required math, spelling & writing skills just to begin to do it.
I looked at mechanical drafting a bit & thought,, "Heck no,, TOO much math.!"
Art,, ha,,,,,, far from it. It required math, spelling & writing skills just to begin to do it.
I looked at mechanical drafting a bit & thought,, "Heck no,, TOO much math.!"
My brother ws in Pompano Beach but they closed that facility (it was Bendix) at the time. He moved to Lawrence Kansas and the facility there.
A 70% Functional Illiteracy rate in the United States Of America should indicate what should be prioritized. Unfortunately, the people in charge of those decisions are a part of that number.
Ive been joking about which A to add, since it came out.
Arts, Archytetcher, Astronomy, Archeology, Accounting, A.I., Athletics, et.c.
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It would not shock me if they don't push for it to be STREAM soon. Add in the R for the all important racism studies course...
Certainly wouldnt be for Realism or Reverence or Responsibility...
[I looked at mechanical drafting a bit & thought,, "Heck no,, TOO much math.!"]
I had an engineering job 'locked in' (Mom's Cousin was an engineer working for a design firm in KC MO) and all I had to do was finish my Mechanical Engineering degree. After giving serious thought, I determined I couldn't bear to live in KC MO for the next 20-30 years and walked away from the opportunity. Fifty years later, I don't regret the choice.
I had an engineering job 'locked in' (Mom's Cousin was an engineer working for a design firm in KC MO) and all I had to do was finish my Mechanical Engineering degree. After giving serious thought, I determined I couldn't bear to live in KC MO for the next 20-30 years and walked away from the opportunity. Fifty years later, I don't regret the choice.
Iginanse be a Cibil Rite
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Den, why som pipl got be so uncibil bout it? Lazay fayer, mon!
I didn't know anything about this so I did a search & this is what I found. I still find myself unsure of the practical application.
https://theconversation.com/explain...with diversity of representation and thought.
https://theconversation.com/explain...with diversity of representation and thought.
I was a not the best student when in school. I just wanted to get out so I could go to work. When I was an apprentice they taught us a bit about drafting, mechanical drawing. They wanted us to be able to take a flat sheet of metal & fabricate pretty much anything. I found I learned better when my livelihood depended on it. Nowadays they don't teach as much layout as they did then. They enter the fittings into a computer & a plasma machine burns everything out of the metal. We are losing our craft. And so it goes.........
We had cutters when I started who laid out and cut fittings. Then we got CNC pen plotters that marked out the fittings before we got plasma tables. Ask an old timer about Red Heads. Thank God I missed having to punch start screws and run them in with a flat head screwdriver!!! I tell kids that if they don't know basic Geometry and Trigonometry they're too dumb for Construction. One of the reasons that I've been rejected for the JAC a few times is that I want to add things like an English Wheel to the shop as an elective. A "Journeyman" should be a master of the medium they are working with not just a Duct bender.
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