As the title says, anybody?
These are for experienced experimenters. Definitely not your run of the mill reloads.
These are for experienced experimenters. Definitely not your run of the mill reloads.
Any body mess with "Cat Sneeze" loads?
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I have loaded my wife some light 38 special loads, 2.7 grains of Titegroup under a 147 grain bullet.
That is the lightest I have gone.
That is the lightest I have gone.
The Norseman
Blackhawk
I tried Trail Boss powder per their instructions
in ten 223Rem reloads. I used a 50gr bullet.
Using my AR15 with 16"bbl, they were quieter
of course, did not cycle the bolt carrier group,
and point of impact was about 7" low at 50ft.
Probably won't make them again.
in ten 223Rem reloads. I used a 50gr bullet.
Using my AR15 with 16"bbl, they were quieter
of course, did not cycle the bolt carrier group,
and point of impact was about 7" low at 50ft.
Probably won't make them again.
I seem to recall back in the days of 50ft NRA bullseye using like 2.5 grains of Bullseye under a 148-grain wadcutter in a .38 Spl case. Quite accurate in my Security Six.
I'm down to 1.2 gr of Unique with a 124 9mm out of a 357 case in a Winchester 92. You hear the hammer hit and the target hit. I've been working off info on line and a 1967 NRA book. Tried the 9 in a 357 because friction is a big concern. Figured a couple thou less couldn't hurt. The load notes say plan on sticking a bullet until you find what works. So far, I haven't stuck one. I'm getting 1" deep in a 4x4 post at 25 yds with 2-3" accuracy. Still playing and tuning. I have not tried opening primer holes yet either.
I want to try some 160 9's and 180 38's, just haven't found them yet.
I found a bunch of info on rifle rounds, but I'm paying with 38/357.
I want to try some 160 9's and 180 38's, just haven't found them yet.
I found a bunch of info on rifle rounds, but I'm paying with 38/357.
Funky
Bearcat
I really like loading and shooting the "cat sneeze" loads out of all my firearms, I shot 1.5 gr. Bullseye under a #1.5 buckshot ball for three seasons in a 50 ft. bullseye league in a T/C 10" Contender in .30 Carbine, it shot better than me and shot some squirrels with it too, very economical to shoot.
noahmercy
Blackhawk
I have created "gallery loads" for a 44 Super Redhawk using a pinch of Clays and .433" lead muzzleloader balls in 44 Special cases. Velocity was a little under 500 FPS, recoil was less than a 22 LR, and groups at 25 yards (benched and scoped) were just one ragged hole wayyy below the POI for "regular" ammo. No leading due to the dead soft projectile and low velocity, and Clays is a clean powder. Lots of fun for cheap since I cast my own ball and bullets!
I just screw the 'sneeze guard' onto the muzzle.
badguybuster
Single-Sixer
13 grains of unique under a 300gr projectile in 45-70....i call it a "mouse fart" load.
moparclan
Single-Sixer
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You haven't seen my cat sneeze, at least .357 power!
Rick Courtright
Hawkeye
Hi,
I think there have been no fewer than a kazillion rounds loaded with that basic recipe (2.5 to 2.8 gr.) Fantastic for killing paper at short range. Didn't the bullseye sport pretty much revolve around this type of load?
Rick C
Sure did in my club.
PPC competition also, 2.5 grs Red Dot with a 148 gr HBWC. Next to no recoil, very accurate out to 50 yards. Red Dot was pretty smoky so a lot of use went to Scot Powder Co. Solo 1000, same load, just a soft and accurate but a lot less smoke.
My favorite bullet was the Markell 148-gr wadcutter. Ring any bells?
I think I still have a couple of boxes.
I think I still have a couple of boxes.
There was a great Swedish Mauser nlog a few years ago that does not exist now. I had three Swedes then: 1894 carbine and two 1896.
The guy running blog discussed "cat sneeze loads" as of practice loads for rifles. He noted that Finns used a single .30 buckshot with their Moisin for gallery loads.
The guy running blog discussed "cat sneeze loads" as of practice loads for rifles. He noted that Finns used a single .30 buckshot with their Moisin for gallery loads.
This sounds like fun!
I suspect I might have some 200 38 SWC laying around here somewhere. I might be able to find them.
I had a .35 Whelen once and went by some of the Swedish Mauser blog commentary and loaded the Rifle with Unique/wadding and 158 grain Special bullets: .357" as compared to .358". They were quite accurate at 25 m on reduced target for Chuck Taylor shooting drills It was quite a bit cheaper and easier on shoulder. Normal .35 Whelen load is around 60 grains of of IMR 4064 and 30 ft-lb recoil.
Have a German military .22LR adapter kit for HK 91. Great and inexpensive practice for the Taylor drills, and can use indoor ranges once you convince range operators it is not a 7.62 x 51 mm.
Have a German military .22LR adapter kit for HK 91. Great and inexpensive practice for the Taylor drills, and can use indoor ranges once you convince range operators it is not a 7.62 x 51 mm.
Lost Sheep
Single-Sixer
I do not recall the charge or velocities, but my friend and I would load 500 S&W down to where, if you looked closely, you could see the bullets fly downrange. (Trail Boss and Unique powders for the low-end loads.) He called them "couse-fart" loads. I don't know what that said about his attitude towards felines.As the title says, anybody?
These are for experienced experimenters. Definitely not your run of the mill reloads.
When someone at the range expressed an interest in shooting his 4" X-Frame Smith (and if we thought they might be surprised by full-power loads) we would let them experience increasingly powerful loads. A number of experienced shooters were self-aware and free of toxic machismo enough stop before they got to the thumb-dislocating levels.
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