Hondo44 said:
gak,
The 44 Spl fits the pattern however:
There is no predecessor 'Vaquero' for the 44 Spl. It's the first vaquero style revolver in that caliber. Therefore it can't be a "new" version of anything even though it has the RIP System, it's an original model in 44 Spl cal introduced with the RIPS, hence it's just a "Vaquero" and marked as such.
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Hondo44 said:
gak,
The 44 Spl fits the pattern however:
There is no predecessor 'Vaquero' for the 44 Spl. It's the first vaquero style revolver in that caliber. Therefore it can't be a "new" version of anything even though it has the RIP System, it's an original model in 44 Spl cal introduced with the RIPS, hence it's just a "Vaquero" and marked as such.
Jim, you're probably going to have to take back some of the nice things you said about me when I say that I have never fully bought into that reasoning either. While I reluctantly acknowledge (realize) their apparent logic regarding RIPS, evidenced in the aforementioned newer .44 Mags--and again only if they stick to the scheme now (see my preference below)...I refer to what I believe was a goof with the 44 Special naming again--I have always felt that the frame size should dictate the New Vaquero vs. just Vaquero labeling. I think whether a caliber had been available before in a particular frame is a minor aspect, way too much nuance, and should be immaterial, just as ideally whether it has RIPS or not is a mechanical detail, ...To differentiate instead perhaps an R in the serial number or stamped on the underside of the frame--or some such distinction is in order.
There's just too much history of the large frame Vaquero and medium frame New Vaquero. A large Vaquero is a large Vaquero, no "New" (enough) about it to change the name. If Ruger came out with a .38-40/10mm convertible (yea!) in a midframe, complete and inherently but immaterially with RIPS, to me it would be a "New Vaquero," and regardless whether those calibers were available in the "old" Vaquero platform before. People of all stripes have referred to "...on the New Vaquero frame...." for so long, to me as a naming convention it has become de facto law.
With that said, hope you still like me at least a little--however misinformed, ha!