S&W question ?

Did S&W ever make a revolver with a full lugged barrel & a recessed cyl. ???

Local pawn broker had 1 & it looked as though it started out as a 19 then a 586 barrel fitted & pinned !!

Good lookin revolver , but you can tell in the polish/reblue job they smeared the stampings just a tad .

Tempting , but I passed.

I believe the early 586/686 guns were recessed & pinned but I'm not 100% sure about that.

You can tell a K frame from an L frame at a glance by the height of the hammer, once you know what you're looking at. Look at some pictures of both and you can see what I mean.

I know the Model 19-4 was the last (in that series) to be pinned and recessed, mine was in 1980. I had an early 586 and believe it was not but cannot be 100%. My 686 was made in 1985 and it is not.

I hope you find this helpful.

Never seen a 686 pinned and recessed and I have a 686 no dash

GP100man said:

Did S&W ever make a revolver with a full lugged barrel & a recessed cyl. ??? [...]

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Taken literally that's an easy question with an answer that does not help. All S&W .22 rimfire revolvers have been recessed since approximately the mid 1920s and most K-22s have been full lugged since 1989. More to the point no L frames [686/586] were pinned or recessed and no pinned and recessed model 19s were full lug. If you change the question to "were any pinned and recessed S&W center fire revolvers full lugged I'm pretty sure the answer is no or only a few odd balls.

As long as you are looking at S&Ws with traditionally installed one piece barrels all K frames have metal removed from the bottom of the barrel under the forcing cone providing clearance for the yoke. L frames were primarily engineered to get rid of the stress riser that flat created. If you don't handle K and L frames enough to immediately recognize one by size looking for the flat spot seems easy.

Incidentally, L frame barrel threads are larger diameter than K frame threads. Rethreading would not be quick or inexpensive but I'm acquainted with the proud owner of a 19 wearing a 4" 586 barrel. Similar rebarreling was once done for PPC with Python barrels. However it's possible the 19 you looked at didn't get a 586 barrel to create its owner's dream gun. S&W no longer sells replacement 19 barrels so a 586 barrel may have been the best option after the original barrel's flat spot cracked.

Maybe just cut for moon clips?

At the time the Model 586 Distinguished Combat Magnum was introduced, I was a member of the Tennessee Outdoors Writers Association and got early press releases, so I got a pre-introduction notice. I bought a 4" Model 586 as soon as one became available, and it has neither pin nor counterbored chambers.

Bob Wright

I said I wasn't 100% sure about it! :wink:

In a center fire gun: not likely. There were some mixed results/crossovers when P&R was scrapped in 1980 (pinned-not recessed or recessed-not pinned), but those played out in a year or so. I really don't think any full lug models appeared until 4-5 years later.

The full lug S&W 586 appeared in '81.