world famous bobski mystery thing, #478

[bobski]

marked Remington with a U on the rim. I know they have to do with cement or....?
can someone show me what the gun looks like? remember, these mysteries come from my dads workshop. im trying piece things together. thanks.

 

[Acorn]

Nails for a Ramset gun.

 

[bobski]

explain...........

 

[Busterswoodshop]

A ramset is a gun that uses blank cartridges ( usually .27 caliber ) to shoot pins ( nails ) into concrete.
They will also shoot into steel.
The pins you have are for a Remington ramset , but will work in most any ramset.

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[bobski]

are mine wood or steel?

 

[Dan in MI]

need scale, but I'm guessing those are only about 2" long, so they are not to nail 2x4's to cement but probably steel studs.

 

[wheelgun1958]

are mine wood or steel?

They look steel to me.

8)

 

[Busterswoodshop]

They can be used to fasten to either steel or concrete.
There are different lengths for different applications.
Depending on what you are fastening , you use different lengths.
For instance , 3 inch for 2X's , 1-1/2 inch for 1X's , 3/4 to 1 inch for metal stud tracks and so forth.

The pin just needs to be long enough to go through whatever you are fastening and be able to penetrate into the concrete or steel enough to hold it.

Then there are different loads depending on how much force you need to drive the pin.

I use the same pins for either concrete or steel.
The only difference is the length of the pin and the size of the load.

 

[Jeepnik]

Ramset wasn't made by Remington. Remington called theirs a "Power Hammer". It didn't have a pistol grip, and the blank was fired by hitting a pin at the top with a hammer. I've used mine on wood, concrete, cement blocks, bricks and thin sheet metal that was backed by wood. It must be over forty years old and still works just fine.

 

[Busterswoodshop]

True , but on the job site they are all called ramsets , regardless of how the are triggered.

 

[Jeepnik]

Your job site perhaps. Not mine.

 

[Mike J]

I didn't know Remington made powder actuated tools for construction. I have used Ramset & Hilti guns but never seen a Remington made one. Interesting. On most job sites I have worked on people call them by the manufacturers name or just call them a shot gun. One thing I have learned over the years is everything has ten names. Folks from different parts of the country have different terms they use for the same thing. Usually we can figure it our pretty quickly.

 

[bobski]

could they have been used for putting in sliding glass door tracks?
what are those green star shaped plastic things?

 

[Busterswoodshop]

Yes they can be used for sliding door tracks.
The plastic on the end keeps them lined up in the barrel.
You put the pin in the end of the barrel first. The plastic holds it in place.
Then cock it and put the shot in the receiver.
Then push it down onto whatever you are fastening and pull the trigger or hit if with a hammer if you have that kind.

The ones you hit with a hammer are the least expensive ones made.
They work OK , but if you have to use it all day or on walls or ceilings they suck.

 

[Busterswoodshop]

Your job site perhaps. Not mine.

Not just my job sights , on every job site I have ever been on in the past 45 + years.

 

[Bob Wright]

As to Remington made industrial cartridges, many years ago I was shown an 8 ga. shotgun shell by Remington. Somehow this cartridge was used in a special shotgun which could be inserted into a bin in which a fire had started. Supposedly the blast from the shell snuffed out the fire.

And, all the jobs I was ever on, "Ramset" was a generic term for any powder actuated anchors. And I seem to remember years ag a woman, a secretary in a nearby office was killed by an errant anchor that penetrated the surface of a support, hitting a cavity or some odd happening.

Bob Wright

Bob Wright

 

[Rick Courtright]

Your job site perhaps. Not mine.

Not just my job sights , on every job site I have ever been on in the past 45 + years.

Hi,

I was never in a trade for real (just a few short term "helping out" gigs which were really mostly gopher stuff), but many family members and friends have been contractors and such. I never heard any of them use another name for the tool than ramset.

Learn something new every day.

Rick C

 

[Rick Courtright]

As to Remington made industrial cartridges, many years ago I was shown an 8 ga. shotgun shell by Remington. Somehow this cartridge was used in a special shotgun which could be inserted into a bin in which a fire had started. Supposedly the blast from the shell snuffed out the fire.

Hi,

We had a couple of those in the display case at the range for years. One of our shooters brought them in from work: he worked in a local cement plant and told us about clinker guns. As he described them, they looked like mini-cannons and were rail mounted in front of the row of kilns (ovens.) "Clinkers" were the build up in the kilns, which was almost impossible to break loose easily. So the operator would move the gun to whichever kiln he wanted, pin it to the rail, and fire it. The slug had to be around 3 oz or better, and just shattered the clinkers so they could be shoveled out.

Rick C

 

[bobski]

calling it all ramsets is like calling all fried chicken kfc. its like we all know what it really means. :>

 

[tunnug]

More like scotch tape, even if it's made by someone else.

 

[bobski]

or duck tape.

ok, so the green thing is like a sabot device. got it.

 

[Busterswoodshop]

I have never heard anyone say ( in your best English accent )
" Pardon me sir , but do you happen to have a power actuated hammer. "

 

[wiz1997]

We used them to nail unsuspecting coworker's lunch boxes to the floor.

 

[Jeepnik]

I must have pushed one of busters buttons. For this I apologize.

Call them anything you want. The purpose of words is to convey ideas. As ling as they do that you’ve succeeded.

 

[bobski]

got a (smoke?)