Will you carry Narcan?

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The Surgeon General is urging everyone to spend a few bucks and buy a syringe of Narcan and carry it around just in case you come across someone who has overdosed on heroin. Is the heroin overdose situation a public health crisis or Darwinian "natural selection" in operation? I don't plan to get a syringe and carry it, in fact I have very little sympathy for those that shoot this poison into themselves and do not feel an obligation to carry a bulky item just in case one of these losers overdoses in my presence. What about you?
 
I am not a medic so how am I qualified to administer a drug to somebody that I have no idea what their problem is?
 
gjgalligan said:
I am not a medic so how am I qualified to administer a drug to somebody that I have no idea what their problem is?


Just to add to that thought, what if you happen to hit the odds and your injection causes one of the rare but possible cardiac arrhythmias or comas? I've heard some pretty irresponsible things from government employees before but this is right up there with going out on the front porch and discharging a shotgun to scare away burglars. Not to disparage Vito in any way, shape or form but I haven't seen the rec from anyone and would need to see a link before I would believe it came from the Surgeon General.
 
vito said:
The Surgeon General is urging everyone to spend a few bucks and buy a syringe of Narcan and carry it around just in case you come across someone who has overdosed on heroin.

I don't plan to get a syringe and carry it, in fact I have very little sympathy for those that shoot this poison into themselves and do not feel an obligation to carry a bulky item just in case one of these losers overdoses in my presence.

What about you?


Ditto..........

IMO, it's not an epidemic - almost all those overdosing folks (except maybe for someone whose MD got them hooked) got themselves into trouble, and as far as I'm concerned, they can get themselves out of it.

The only opioid crisis I see is the accumulation of stiffs & the burden on taxpayers to remove them.

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I personally have no friends or family that have drug issues, so the worth of me carrying it personally is minimal. However I assist in scripture based recovery classes, so we will likely have narcan there for any emergencies and will make sure I know how to assess and administer if necessary. I look at it no different than being adequately trained in CPR. People can abuse their bodies with addictive drugs as easily as poor lifestyle habits. I'm not going to waste time trying to determine if this person did this to themselves if I have a chance to help.
 
I think we should look for a financial link between the Surgeon General and the Narcan manufacturer. Big Pharma has made millions from indiscriminate opiod use, now wants to make millions more "saving" people from opiod overdose. I won't be carrying Narcan.
 
The majority of addicts are a drain on society along with crime that goes with it, if someone's OD'ing I'll call 911, but that's as far as I'm going, they made the decision to use and don't care about the consequences so why should I.
Call me callous but I've known addicts and the majority of them only care about themselves and where the money for the next high is coming from.
 
Here's a link that should have been in the OP:

http://www.cnn.com/2018/04/05/health/surgeon-general-naloxone/index.html
 
No

Get into a car crash - I'll do all I can to help.

Or any other medical emergency, except opioid overdose and 'I'm' suppose to bail you out...Nope.
 
sorry I wont do it ,me and the wife both had cousins in there late 40's ,who O.D ,almost dying ,then they turn around ,and keep doing it till they OD and died from it ,they did not learn better so i say screw um ,it there problem ,i would rather carry insulin for some one going into diabetic shock ,they cant help it
 
Not happening...
I am not qualified to ascertain if someone is ODing not am I qualified to make injections. I also will not assume responsibility for an allergic reaction or the consequences of the results of an unwarranted injection of Narcan.
 
Will the AG recommend we should pack a gun to save another that we see being victimized?
 
Let’s see. Big pharma got the opioid crisis going. Now they want us to make them even richer buying narcan for something most of us will never see and are not qualified to administer. Sounds like a heck of a marketing plan.
 
Wait until people start getting sued for administering Narcan to somebody without their permission. Or if they succumb to the OD anyway and their relatives want to turn it into a windfall opportunity. Is the pharmaceutical company going to pay for the defense? Dream on.
 
Hi,

No... my thoughts and experiences on the issue have already been put forth quite well by others. I saw the blip from the Surgeon Gen'l on a news feed and my thoughts were along the lines of "This guy thinks he can tell us what WE need to do when the gubb'mint refuses to do their part first?"

Yes, opiods are a problem. Yes they affect us all. But how many ODs or addictions are there to heroin, bought illegally on the street, versus those involving drugs purchased legally from the local pharmacy with a scrip? Everyone I've known with an opiod problem got their drugs the second way: "Oh, Doc, I stubbed my toe and it hurts!" "Ok, here's a scrip for some oxy (or ???) to take the edge off." Uh, huh...

Rick C
 
Actually what he proposed was that if you knew or were around someone with a drug problem that perhaps it would be a good idea to have some Narcan. I have personal knowledge of someone being saved by the use of Narcan. Yes I would carry it, and hope to never have to use it. I doubt that any jury in the US would convict someone attempting to save a life.
 
No I won't, I have to worry about carrying a Glucagon kit for myself. I have nearly died from hypoglycemia attacks, so I worry about that.
 
My daughter was a EMT and said that the Doper,s are just plain mad that you have stolen their High! She would get them on the gurney and strapped down first.
 
vito said:
The Surgeon General is urging everyone to spend a few bucks and buy a syringe of Narcan and carry it around just in case you come across someone who has overdosed on heroin. Is the heroin overdose situation a public health crisis or Darwinian "natural selection" in operation? I don't plan to get a syringe and carry it, in fact I have very little sympathy for those that shoot this poison into themselves and do not feel an obligation to carry a bulky item just in case one of these losers overdoses in my presence. What about you?


As I recall we once had a Surgeon General named Joycelyn Elders that advised us we should teach all the little children to masturbate...Seems to me we need to come up with a new pool of possible appointees for that office.
 
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