Whiners and other pampered spoiled brats

[GunnyGene]

Just caught a sound bite on the tube. Some woman stuck on a cruise ship whining about "no food for 24 hrs". :roll:

Give me a break. She looked like she could easily do without a snack for a week or 2. :roll:

 

[gramps]

Gunny, we Americans live like kings and queens, and we have all the diseases to prove it.. Diabetes, gout, heart disease, obesity ....and we have whine with all of that. :shock:
gramps

 

[Badger Matt]

Gunny, Whatever you do...do NOT become a high school teacher. You ain't gonna like the changes in society.

 

[coach]

Seriously, if you paid a couple thousand bucks for a cruise, you wouldn't be pissed if you hadn't been fed for a day?

 

[GunnyGene]

Seriously, if you paid a couple thousand bucks for a cruise, you wouldn't be pissed if you hadn't been fed for a day?

No I wouldn't be if there was a good reason why, as there was in this case. She and the rest of the passengers will get their money back and then some.

 

[GunnyGene]

Gunny, Whatever you do...do NOT become a high school teacher. You ain't gonna like the changes in society.

Too old to even think about it. Did a week long guest speaker gig about 20 years ago at a hs. That was quite enough. :wink:

 

[Jimbo357mag]

Good thing the ship didn't sink. It suffered some serious damage and is still being repaired.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/02/world/americas/bahamas-celebration-cruise-evacuated/

 

[wolfsong]

Good thing the ship didn't sink. It suffered some serious damage and is still being repaired.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/02/world/americas/bahamas-celebration-cruise-evacuated/

Not according to the above link. No mention of the extent of the damage and/or repairs, much less the risk of sinking. Nor any mention of the cause...

 

[Fox Mike]

Good thing the ship didn't sink. It suffered some serious damage and is still being repaired.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/02/world/americas/bahamas-celebration-cruise-evacuated/

Not according to the above link. No mention of the extent of the damage and/or repairs, much less the risk of sinking. Nor any mention of the cause...

It said that they suspect they hit something while at sea. It also said the boat began to 'tilt'. That would indicate to me that it is serious damage. Boats normally don't 'tilt'. Now after putting on life jackets and having the boat start to 'tilt' I personally would think that there just might be a serious problem. Food would be the last thing on my mind at that time.

 

[GunnyGene]

Hasn't anyone told the people in charge, or the people reporting on this story, that ships don't "tilt," they list. Good grief. - DixieBoy

Whatever. The boat probably got clipped by a magazine. :lol: :wink:

 

[Fox Mike]

It said that they suspect they hit something while at sea. It also said the boat began to 'tilt'. That would indicate to me that it is serious damage. Boats normally don't 'tilt'. Now after putting on life jackets and having the boat start to 'tilt' I personally would think that there just might be a serious problem. Food would be the last thing on my mind at that time.

Hasn't anyone told the people in charge, or the people reporting on this story, that ships don't "tilt," they list. Good grief. - DixieBoy

Agreed. I posted 'tilt' as that what was reported. Either way; a boat rolling over, one way or the other, and STAYING in that position is call for concern...no matter what it is called. Food or lack thereof would and should be way down on the "I need it" list at that point.

 

[Jimbo357mag]

Good thing the ship didn't sink. It suffered some serious damage and is still being repaired.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/02/world/americas/bahamas-celebration-cruise-evacuated/

Not according to the above link. No mention of the extent of the damage and/or repairs, much less the risk of sinking. Nor any mention of the cause...

There are many reports here about the cruise ship because it sails from Port of Palm Beach. Here is another report from Yahoo/ABC. This one is pretty good. Many of the next cruises on the ship have been canceled and the port of Palm Beach is not happy they are loosing money on parking and their percentage of the passenger fair. There is a whole lot that wasn't in the link to CNN but I posed that as the best article at the time. The OP didn't have a link. Sorry I didn't detail where I got all my information from for you to verify. but "It suffered some serious damage and is still being repaired" is completely true.

http://news.yahoo.com/video/halloween-horror-strikes-cruise-ship-002141588.html

 

[wolfsong]

Thank you.

 

[coach]

Hasn't anyone told the people in charge, or the people reporting on this story, that ships don't "tilt," they list. Good grief. - DixieBoy

I used to have a similar discussion with my wife when I took her sailing. She didn't like it because the boat was always "tipping". I don't know how many times I explained the boat isn't tipping, it's heeling, and it's supposed to do that in order to move. I'm not a fanatic about nautical terms, but when they apply, they should be used.

 

[gramps]

So is it listing to port or starboard?
gramps

 

[Colonialgirl]

Well, I KNOW about Cransing Irons and Dolphin Strikers, Standing rigging and running rigging, not to mention Chain plates, Ropes, Cables and Wires. How about a "Club Footed Mizzen"?

 

[wolfsong]

Well, I KNOW about Cransing Irons and Dolphin Strikers, Standing rigging and running rigging, not to mention Chain plates, Ropes, Cables and Wires. How about a "Club Footed Mizzen"?

Dare I ask, what's the poop deck all about?

 

[Wyandot Jim]

Sounds like it did quite a bit of damage. Put a big enough hole in the hull that it must have taken out the engines and generators. Plus it had a pretty good list to it. Sure would like to know what it hit. Any missing Subs??

 

[Jimbo357mag]

Sounds like it did quite a bit of damage. Put a big enough hole in the hull that it must have taken out the engines and generators. Plus it had a pretty good list to it. Sure would like to know what it hit. Any missing Subs??

This report and a few others says the ship hit the bottom when it was leaving port. Most of the others from a few days ago say it hit something.
Listing to Port. ...the Left side with the Red light.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2818935/Halloween-horror-cruise-REAL-nightmare-ship-starts-tilting-forcing-1-000-costume-clad-passengers-evacuate.html

 

[Wyandot Jim]

Sounds like it did quite a bit of damage. Put a big enough hole in the hull that it must have taken out the engines and generators. Plus it had a pretty good list to it. Sure would like to know what it hit. Any missing Subs??

This report and a few others says the ship hit the bottom when it was leaving port. Most of the others from a few days ago say it hit something.
Listing to Port. ...the Left side with the Red light.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2818935/Halloween-horror-cruise-REAL-nightmare-ship-starts-tilting-forcing-1-000-costume-clad-passengers-evacuate.html

Kind of a GOOFY story. A small hole can cause a 10 PERCENT list and kill the engines. :wink:
I worked at the BORCO Plant that you can see in the pictures in this link. Hey a rough job but someone had to do it Also about 1/4 mile off the beach the water is deep enough for Super Tankers to off load oil. The water gets real deep real fast just out of the narrow channel. Seams the only way to run aground would be to hit the bank :wink:

In the second picture you can see where they park the cruise ship. You can also see the offshore loading docks and you can tell the water depth by the color. I think it goes to 1000'-2000' about 3 miles offshore.

http://marinas.com/view/overview/346_Freeport_Harbour_GB_Bahamas

Freeport Harbour General Information

ENTRANCE CHANNEL AND TURNING BASIN:
Entrance to Freeport Harbour from the sea is through a straight channel 1,800 feet in length, 500 feet in width with a depth of 47 feet at M.L.W.

There are no reefs or obstructions to the open sea.

PILOTAGE:
Pilotage is compulsory. Every ship (other than an exempted ship, see below) while entering, leaving or making use of the Port or the waterways of Freeport, and every ship carrying passengers

"The cruise ship ran aground 200 yards outside Freeport Harbour and salvage crews assessed the damage caused by 'a small hole in the side of the vessel'.

James Verillo, owner of the Bahamas Celebration cruise line, said on Saturday afternoon that a small hole on the side of the vessel has been repaired and the ship is in no danger of sinking."

 

[GunnyGene]

Well, I KNOW about Cransing Irons and Dolphin Strikers, Standing rigging and running rigging, not to mention Chain plates, Ropes, Cables and Wires. How about a "Club Footed Mizzen"?

Dare I ask, what's the poop deck all about?

Not what most people think. It derives from the French ( la poupe ) back in the wooden ship days, and was the roof (or deck) of the stern cabin. It was an elevated position that was usually manned by the helmsman (and the captain or officer of the day) and provided a good view of the course, sails, and main deck.

On modern (powered) ships that function was moved to the Bridge (which isn't really a bridge).

 

[Rick Courtright]

Not what most people think. It derives from the French ( la poupe ) back in the wooden ship days, and was the roof (or deck) of the stern cabin.

Hi,

So that means we can't snicker at the thought of a helmsman standing on the poop deck in his pea coat?

Rick C

 

[GunnyGene]

Not what most people think. It derives from the French ( la poupe ) back in the wooden ship days, and was the roof (or deck) of the stern cabin.

Hi,

So that means we can't snicker at the thought of a helmsman standing on the poop deck in his pea coat?

Rick C

You can snicker all you want. Just be aware that some sailors get pretty big, and not all of them have a sense of humor. :wink:

 

[Paul B]

"I'm not a fanatic about nautical terms, but when they apply, they should be used."

You're assuming most landlubbers know all those terms. :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Paul B.

 

[bobski]

if you drove a few thousand miles and showed up at a bulleye match and they ran out of targets, would you whine?
unless of course..they had a good reason.

 

[GunnyGene]

if you drove a few thousand miles and showed up at a bulleye match and they ran out of targets, would you whine?
unless of course..they had a good reason.

Some might. I wouldn't. Instead, I'd try to find or make targets to continue the match. Adapt, Improvise, Overcome.

 

[Merle1948]

Good thing the ship didn't sink. It suffered some serious damage and is still being repaired.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/02/world/americas/bahamas-celebration-cruise-evacuated/

Not according to the above link. No mention of the extent of the damage and/or repairs, much less the risk of sinking. Nor any mention of the cause...

It said that they suspect they hit something while at sea. It also said the boat began to 'tilt'. That would indicate to me that it is serious damage. Boats normally don't 'tilt'. Now after putting on life jackets and having the boat start to 'tilt' I personally would think that there just might be a serious problem. Food would be the last thing on my mind at that time.

There you go trying to apply common sense again ..... :mrgreen:

 

[Merle1948]

Well, I KNOW about Cransing Irons and Dolphin Strikers, Standing rigging and running rigging, not to mention Chain plates, Ropes, Cables and Wires. How about a "Club Footed Mizzen"?

Dare I ask, what's the poop deck all about?

Are you sure you really want to know? :mrgreen:

 

[Colonialgirl]

OOPs Duplicate !!

 

[Colonialgirl]

Not what most people think. It derives from the French ( la poupe ) back in the wooden ship days, and was the roof (or deck) of the stern cabin.

Hi,

So that means we can't snicker at the thought of a helmsman standing on the poop deck in his pea coat?

Rick C

You can snicker all you want. Just be aware that some sailors get pretty big, and not all of them have a sense of humor. :wink:

From Google Translate: La Poupe = Stern