Where Ruger Really Shines?

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Over the past year or so my revolver tally has been growing. Some are Smiths, one is a Colt, but about half are Rugers- both single action and double action.

After shooting a lot of revolvers, not only mine, but also guns others bring to the range, I've begun to conclude that revolvers are the place where Ruger truly shines. Ruger makes a lot of really good guns. Sells a boat load of guns each year, too. So it's saying a lot to claim that revolvers are where they are best. But I think it's true.

Now, before anyone gets their knickers all in a bundle, I'm not even saying Ruger revolvers are the BEST revolvers. There are a whole lotta Smith fans out there. Colt, too. And if you say Smith & Wessons or Colts are better, you may very well be right.

But that doesn't mean Ruger revolvers aren't really, really good. They ARE good.
 
Well...since this is a Ruger forum, I don't think you'll get much argument that Ruger makes good revolvers. But perhaps you can tell us what particular aspects of Ruger makes you say this. Are you saying that they stand out more strongly than their semi-autos? Or are you saying they stand out compared to other revolver makers? In any event, I'd like to know the particulars as to what brings you to your conclusion. :)
 
I'll sort of go along with the statement that Ruger revolvers are their outstanding product line. Historically, they revived and reestablished the single action revolver as a viable product and dominate single action sales. They are stronger, more durable and more versatile than any of their competitors.

Their double action revolvers are competitive but not the standard bearers except in strength and durability. Their actions aren't as refined as S&W's but they last nearly forever.
 
Revolvers are most certainly Ruger's niche. They have always been well made and widely respected. I'm very happy that Ruger hasn't cheapened them out like they have other parts of the product line, a Ruger revolver is still an heirloom piece.
 
FergusonTO35 said:
Revolvers are most certainly Ruger's niche. They have always been well made and widely respected. I'm very happy that Ruger hasn't cheapened them out like they have other parts of the product line, a Ruger revolver is still an heirloom piece.
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At the risk of offending Smith & Wesson fans, what Bill Ruger and his engineers achieved back in the 70's with the Security-Six/Speed-Six has turned out to be pure genius. No, Ruger double action revolvers aren't the Swiss watches that Smiths and Colts of that era were, but they were and are rugged and dependable, AND they can be built using modern manufacturing technology. Thus, unlike Smith & Wesson, hasn't needed to spend the past 35 years trying to figure out how to cheapen their revolvers.
 
Durability and Selection makes Ruger King in the Revolver market.
I do not believe any other manufacture has the choices you get with Ruger Revolvers. ps
 
So there seems to be a consensus that the Ruger revolver line is their flagship product. The flip side of this would be that their semi-auto pistols are not. What gun-maker would the majority feel does the same for semi-autos pistols?
 
I think it a bit of an injustice to lump all of Rugers semi-auto pistols together. I'm not a big fan of most of them but I don't believe that anyone would dispute the quality and success of the Mark .22 pistol line. This was an innovative and rugged pistol which at almost 70 years old is still in its basic configuration. This is the firearm that launched Ruger's career and is still respected around the world.
 
So we are concluding that all of the revolver line and the Mark series are outstanding. What gunmaker shines in semi-auto pistols across the board?
 
steelblue,

tough question without some parameters. Revolvers from $500 to $1200 are comparable. Then you get FA, USFA, Korth, and other high end pieces that are difficult to compare.

Semi-autos don't seem quite the same. Steel or polymer? Ruger, Colt, S&W, Glock, Sig, SA, Beretta, CZ, Browning from $500 to $1200 are comparable. Then you get Kimber, Wilson Combat, Dan Wesson, Les Baur in the upper dollar range which I don't have.

I really like great triggers and I find the striker-fired mush horrible. My Browning Hi Power and Colt National Match Gold Cup are terrific autos.

Trying to get to your question about who has done for semi-autos what Ruger did for revolvers gets me to Colt. Colt made the market with the 1911. A 1911 cult developed just like the blackhawk. The cult is still strong at 106 years old.

Now a little different take could be what manufacturer has influenced the market more and I hate hate hate to say it's probably Glock. The transition to polymer, striker-fired was astounding. However I don't think it was done with a superior product, but with superior marketing. The stories of the Glock girls in Vegas are legendary. There's just something wrong with guns that float in the tub.


Prescut
 
Good points Prescut,

I would agree the Ruger revolver line is top quality overall. As far as the Mark series of rimfire pistols, they are right up there on the firing line of competitions almost everywhere, shooting side by side with vintage High Standards and Smith and Wesoon Model 41's.
 
Well I certainly am a Big fan of my GP-100 stainless and other Ruger revolvers. As far as where Ruger shines, we can't overlook the 1022!

Jim
 
SteelBlue said:
So we are concluding that all of the revolver line and the Mark series are outstanding. What gunmaker shines in semi-auto pistols across the board?
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Um... Glock?
 
The full sized Bisley is still one of the stoutest handguns you can own for big bore calibers.
The Ruger 10-22 is still one of the best bang for the buck .22 rifles out there.
Ruger #1 is the only quality fit and finish single shot rifle built in the USA
 
Sorry ditto,


"What gunmaker shines in semi-auto pistols across the board? " Glock

I said influenced, and Glock has done that. Someone else may have said shines across the board, but I can not agree.

I think Glock is the single most overrated pistol ever produced. But sex sells and Glock made sure the industry folks got more than their fair share. Never heard of Sharon Dillon or the Gold Club?
 
Gotta agree with you Prescut on the Glock. I have been tempted to say Sig Sauer. They focus exclusively on semi-autos.
 
For me, Ruger revolvers shine because they don't go out of time like S&Ws.

I've had S&W models 28, 25, 29, and 686, and they've all developed failure to carry up properly in slow cock. Usually on just one or two chambers admittedly, but that still bothers me. Also saw it on my brother's model 19. As well as on my 6" Colt Python.

A shame because they were beautiful revolvers in all other ways.

I have gotten rid of all my S&W (and Colt) revolvers, except a DAO model 940 (9mm) and now shoot only Rugers, a 4" GP100, 2" and 3" SP101s, and .38 and .357 LCRs.

Never the first hint of failure to carry up on any of them, even with quite a few full house mag loads in the .357 LCR. All chambers lock up well before the hammers are brought to full cock on all of them.

Even the Smith 940 barely locks the cylinder on each chamber before the internal hammer drops in slow cock, and can be coaxed into failure to lock on one or two sometimes if I cock slow enough.

Heck, I've even got a cheap (back then anyway) H&R 939 .22 revolver that carries up better than the Smiths. By that I mean the cylinder locks well before the hammer reaches full cock in SA mode.

Not that big a fan of Ruger semiautos, though I do have a LCP and SR1911 I am very fond of.
 
I have been a S&W fan for over 45 years, and have owned several, as well as several Rugers. My first Ruger was a NM in .41 mag, serial number I think was 41-00032. Bought it in June or July of 1973. Sold it...worst decision I ever made. Anyway, my revolvers that I shoot mostly now are the .44 Spec Blackhawks, the flat top in .45 Colt/.45 ACP, and a 50th Anniversary Blackhawk Flat Top in .44 mag. As for DA, well my 7.5" Redhawk for 90% of shooting the heavy stuff, but will occasionally take a M29 out. My favorite carry revolver is my 3" fixed sight GP-100. I shoot some Colt SAA's for fun and some other Smiths for nostalgia, but still go back to Rugers as every day use.
 
Call me biased, but I truly believe the Ruger GP100 is one of the finest revolvers ever made.. I've put nuclear loads through my 6" stainless version that would turn a S&W into a puddle of lead. And my GP100 burps, and asks, "Is that all you got ya Pansy? Come back when you have some real ammo.."
 
GP100 said:
Call me biased, but I truly believe the Ruger GP100 is one of the finest revolvers ever made.. I've put nuclear loads through my 6" stainless version that would turn a S&W into a puddle of lead. And my GP100 burps, and asks, "Is that all you got ya Pansy? Come back when you have some real ammo.."
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You may be a little biased. The GP100 looks to me like Ruger's copy of the classic S&W design, and is essentially a slab-side Redhawk. I'm sure it's a fabulous piece and can eat Kryptonite for breakfast, but it doesn't stand out to me as unique or better than S&W.
 
I have been shooting Smiths since the police academy used to train us with model 10s. The first one I ever shot had the firing pin stress crack on a timed string leaving me with a paperweight. With a lot of use the ejector rod gets so loose they will wobble and the shells with drop under the ejector star and jam up. The short stroke action make them hard to "stage" for accurate double action shooting. And I will concede they did look prettier in blue for a long time but no more. I can pick up a smith in any store for the last 30 years and find fit and finish flaws on every one.
Enough ranting- My Ruger revolvers have just never broke and we know they're the strongest and fair looking and I have yet to see a GP-100 that is not a tack driver- What's not to like?
As for flagships in Rugers?
Gp-100 best 357 I can think of.
MK .22 pistol line- Shut down High Standard and gutted Smiths sales for years.
Blackhawks and Single Sixes- They probably own 95% of single action market.
Yes, no other company dominates in as many totally different markets.
 
Getting back to the original title of the thread, let's not forget the Hawkeye...

Jim
 
William B Ruger was not John Moses Browning. He didn't really invent new types of firearms. His was the ability to see the potential in existing designs. He borrowed from Colt, S&W, Luger, Nambu, etc and made something more durable, robust and just better. Time has proven the success of his vision. JMHO
 
Fox Mike said:
I would say that perhaps Smith and Colt have better 'fit and finish' but for pure dependability and ruggedness, Rugers shine.
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Mike, you took the words right out of my keyboard. 8)
 
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