Recently had an exchange with a fellow about trading an almost new condition 22/45 target in stainless, with a Simmons red dot sight, 5.5 in. barrel, with box, papers and all acc., for a six inch S&W 586. The Smith was in nice condition, but it was just that, a nice Smith. He wanted my gun and $200, I told him most I would do is my gun and $100, he declined. Oh well, guess I will just have to keep enjoying the Ruger goodness. What would you guys think of this deal?
What would you have done?
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VAdoublegunner
Single-Sixer
A (change that to good shooter condition .... very good condition ones are going for a good bit more) S&W 586 will easily fetch around $500 these days, and more if in better condition, especially with original target stocks.
I guess it would depend on what you value your trade offer.
The 22/45 is easily replaced. A good 586, if you really want one, is not so easy to come by these days at a reasonable price.
I guess it would depend on what you value your trade offer.
The 22/45 is easily replaced. A good 586, if you really want one, is not so easy to come by these days at a reasonable price.
To each his own, but I won't own a Smith that isn't a pinned barrel.... meaning 1982 or older. It's not just the barrel pin, though; that's just the easy way to tell. At the time they dropped the pinned barrels (and counterbored cylinders on the magnum calibers), the quality of the finishing and fitting on the internals declined as well.
That said, the price of Smith & Wesson wheelguns (and Colts, as well) has gone through the roof in the last couple years. What was a nice $350 - $400 M29 no-dash a couple years ago now carries an asking price of $700-$800. With current prices, the $200 difference was in the ballpark... in fact, may have been a pretty good deal for you. The box and papers on the 22/45 don't figure into it much, as it's a pretty common pistol, and not really collectible..... and if he wanted it strictly as a shooter, the box and papers had zero value to him.
The fairest kind of deal is when both parties feel they got the short end of the stick..... or when both parties feel like they got the better end of the deal.
That said, the price of Smith & Wesson wheelguns (and Colts, as well) has gone through the roof in the last couple years. What was a nice $350 - $400 M29 no-dash a couple years ago now carries an asking price of $700-$800. With current prices, the $200 difference was in the ballpark... in fact, may have been a pretty good deal for you. The box and papers on the 22/45 don't figure into it much, as it's a pretty common pistol, and not really collectible..... and if he wanted it strictly as a shooter, the box and papers had zero value to him.
The fairest kind of deal is when both parties feel they got the short end of the stick..... or when both parties feel like they got the better end of the deal.
Nah, I always figure, you will eventually find what you want, for the price you want to pay, if you wait long enough. I value my 22/45 at about $350, adding $100 to that seems plenty to me. Smiths are great guns, but they are overpriced.
protoolman
Service-Sixer
I'd keep the RUger. There are a lot of Smiths out there and I just don't find them interesting.
A Ruger is easy to order/install drop in parts for(or factory parts) and do your own work(if you are so inclined). I might suggest that you install a Volquartsen Ruger Mark II / III & 22/45 Target Sear.
http://www.rimfiresports.com/mercha...Code=RSC&Product_Code=VC2TS&Category_Code=VC2
http://www.rimfiresports.com/mercha...Code=RSC&Product_Code=VC2TS&Category_Code=VC2
Keep your Ruger.............. 8) There are plenty of decent 357's out "there".
HAWKEYE#28 said:
+1 :)
pistol pete
Bearcat
The 586 is one of the best shooters there is. I shoot one in IDPA. But it comes down to what you want. Rugers are easy to come by, can't say that about the 586. I will add that you get a better quality S&W if it is pinned. But I do have a couple later models that shoot like a house-afire even though they don't compare to a pinned gun. Just not as well made nor as pretty.
You already have a real good one in the GP100.
You already have a real good one in the GP100.
If you don't feel it was a good deal then you made the right decision.
If it was a 80's or early 90's gun $500 is a good deal. The later ones with the MIM parts and hillary hole are not as desirable.
The 80's guns are very well made guns. I prefer them over the older ones for their durability. The older ones were put together well but the metal ergy was not there.
John
If it was a 80's or early 90's gun $500 is a good deal. The later ones with the MIM parts and hillary hole are not as desirable.
The 80's guns are very well made guns. I prefer them over the older ones for their durability. The older ones were put together well but the metal ergy was not there.
John
