I have both the regular and 10 round mags for the LCP .380, but the extended is an extra carry. Normally both LCPs (.22LR and .380 ) are loaded with factory mags for discretion.
Using small round mag when firearm can hold more
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LCP .380 with a 10 instead of "6" round. (Many 6 rounds seem to operate better as 5s.) looks pretty normal but harder to hide. BTW, if looks counted I wouldn't have any kids.
JackBull
Hunter
How often are 6+ rounds been needed by a non-Leo? How many of us are trained to take on multiple shooters?
The VAST majority of confrontations fizzle out once a gun is brandished. Seldom is even a single shot fired.
If I lived in a crime ridden neighborhood in Minneapolis, or Chicago, or....(fill in the blank)....I would probably carry 12 in my RAC with two 17 rnd sticks on the belt, but I don't and I avoid such areas at all costs.
DGW1949
Hawkeye
I don't have a crystal ball, nor do I believe that past statistics influence future events. Statistics can however, be used to affirm a person's preconceived notions as to how things should/could/might happen. Or leastways, that will work right up until the moment that one finds themselves caught up in a statistically-rare event....you know, that same moment that reality sets in.
DGW
I have a Glock 17 that from the factory came with a 17 round mag. I have two more 17 round mags that reside in a dual mag pouch clip on type which would be carried on my nondominate side. That makes for 51 rounds total. I could get a 33 round mag or even a 50 round drum but both of those would be awkward as all get out. My advise is steer clear of awkward best you can.
If I had to carry much to feel adequately armed, that I would find a new neighborhood to travel in. That many rounds is just below 'basic load' for a Soldier...in combat.
GunnyGene
Hawkeye
That "other" neighborhood may come to you, as recent (in the last few years) events around the country have demonstrated. That's what this is about. Plan for the future, not the past.
I travel a lot between five states (in a motorhome) and sometimes I take a wrong turn ending up in neighborhoods I have no idea that exist. Other times the Google Map app tells me to go the wrong way too. And I never know when and where a Mostly Peaceful Protest/Riot may break out along my routes.
As many have quoted it is always better to have and not need than to need and not have! And I have three handguns that I travel with - a Ruger Redhawk with six .45 COLT Maximum Expansion rounds that open up to 1.75", a Taurus Judge with five 3" .410 #9.5 TSS birdshot, and a Glock 17 with three seventeen round magazines preloaded with fifty-one 9mm HPs. I also have hundreds of spare ammunitions that I can get at if needs be.
The old saying "muck around and find out" is something no one should make a habit of because sooner or later they might just come across me. And I'm loaded for bear and/or anything else that may come my way. Did I mention I'm way too old to play games.
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Seems to be a misunderstanding. The LCP MAX boasts extra round capacity as it's selling point, or reason to switch, when you can get the same capacity for the regular .380
This is why I don't understand why NJ folks get all pissy about 10 round max mags. If you can't defend with ten shots you need to use some other type of weapon. In the case of then.380 I use the factory mag as the main, and keep the ten rounders as back-up.
Better to have and not need than to need and not have. Mag restrictions are an infringement, period.
There may come a time when a person has to defend against riotous groups, and those 30 rnd AR mags just come in handy.
Predators tend to run in packs....
Right now in Oregon M114 is before the state Supreme Court. If it is allowed to pass we’re down to 10 rounds. How will that affect me? I’ll change from a 13+1 subcompact 9mm to something with a more effective bullet. .45 HST’s seem to work well…
I have been trained to. Having just six rounds might make one concentrate more on making the shots count.
You make a good point, however, I certainly feel it is our constitutional, as well as, our God given right to defend ourselves with whatever we desire, so long as we do not harm innocent people.
Totally agree.
In my experience, whatever neighborhood I have lived in, it eventually changes for the worse.
Absolutely!
JackBull
Hunter
While I agree with our point, how common is it that more than 5 rounds are needed. Also someone carrying 15+ rounds can easily be made like they were looking for trouble.
JackBull
Hunter
The Colonel would agree!
Anyone can make an argument sound good to or for anything. One could be innocent and the procecuter can make them seem guilty. One can be guilty and their lawyer make them seem innocent.
Better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6. Better to not worry and just get a job done, as opposed to worry and get nothing done.
I've found that "low capacity" factory mags are often cheaper, so I buy them (if I find them at the right price ;^) for most of my firearms. They're also handy to have if you travel through/to "gun ban states", and smaller mags are helpful when shooting a rifle prone or from a bench.
As always IMHO, FWIW, YMMV, etc., etc...
:-)
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JMD101
Single-Sixer
I use 20 round steel mags vs 30 in my underfolder AK, makes it easier to wield in many environments
I have another reason for the 10 round extender mag on the LCP .380. It makes an absolutely amazing difference. The standard LCP .380 has a small grip. Being so light even the .380 ammo makes it bounce a bit, The 10 round mag ( ProMag brand) adds 2" of textured grip with the lip. WAY more comfortable and easier to control. I am thrilled with it. Standard gun width ( slimmer than the MAX) keeps concealment easy. SO for me it's not just added capacity.
That being said, the MAX, which is already a wider 10 shots, can also accept an extender- which adds a grand total of TWO more shots. Seriously? TWO?
OP
tdtd72
Bearcat
Good points!
Total round count in the gun or carried is not as nearly important as just having backup ammo. WHY would that be? well stuff can happen to prevent the gun from firing. So, reloading might be the answer. You might drop a speed loader/mag while reloading. Going to another mag in a pocket or on the belt is a better deal than stopping in a gun fight to search out lost equipment. In the day of revolvers used by cops the average gun fight was 3 rounds, why carry 18? or like me 24. Try to find a dropped speed loader at night in unlit area while bullets are flying.
When the average round count went to 4.2 rounds in cop gun fights why carry 2 Glock spare 17 round mags with total of 52 rounds. Same problem, gun jams it must be cleared to be able to fire again. what if your shaky hand drops a mag.
Do you raise your hand to stop the gun battle and look for that mag. No, you go for the other mag. on your belt or in your pocket.
At training firing the service gun into a target is an important part of basic training but, learning how to clear a gun failure and do a smooth reload fast is just as or even more important. That holds true to the cop and CCW holder.
Even if the average CCW shoot out is 1 round, standing around with a jammed or empty gun without knowing how to fix the gun or have a reload can be very dangerous. A spare mag/speed loader carried with you is not all that bulky or heavy.
When the average round count went to 4.2 rounds in cop gun fights why carry 2 Glock spare 17 round mags with total of 52 rounds. Same problem, gun jams it must be cleared to be able to fire again. what if your shaky hand drops a mag.
Do you raise your hand to stop the gun battle and look for that mag. No, you go for the other mag. on your belt or in your pocket.
At training firing the service gun into a target is an important part of basic training but, learning how to clear a gun failure and do a smooth reload fast is just as or even more important. That holds true to the cop and CCW holder.
Even if the average CCW shoot out is 1 round, standing around with a jammed or empty gun without knowing how to fix the gun or have a reload can be very dangerous. A spare mag/speed loader carried with you is not all that bulky or heavy.
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