"uh-oh" or "finally"

[Rix86]

I've entered the ranks of wheel gun ownership.

New model blackhawk in .30 carbine.
Looks nearly brand new.

 

[comanche]

Nice Flame Thrower.

 

[Rix86]

Nice Flame Thrower.

:twisted:

 

[mattsbox99]

Welcome to Wheelgun ownership, you'll likely be hooked for life. Its not a bad thing, but it does require the purchase of more Wheelguns. Wheelgunitis is even less curable than Rugeritis (not that you would want a cure anyway). :)

The .30 Carbine is a loud sucker due to the high velocity.

 

[Kevin]

Boy, what a great caliber to get started with. The 30 carbine is awesome!

 

[contender]

Welcome to the real fun!
yes,, those 30 Carbines can be "flame throwers" but they are ALSO quite a bit of fun. Heck,, I just added my 3rd OM 30 Carbine recently,, and it was as close to NIB as you could ask for. I love 'em!

 

[45flattop]

The 30 Carbines are indeed a LOT of fun and mine is more accurate with
GI hardball than I can shoot to be honest. Just ONE caution that you may
have already discovered, HEARING PROTECTORS, good ones too. The
day I bought mine for the princely sum of $40 back in 1971 I wondered
why the original owner had traded in an apparently almost NIB gun and
my dealer didn't mark it higher considering its pristine condition.
Then I went to my local range with a friend and we shot it most of the
afternoon on and off UNTIL, in order to hear his voice I partially removed
one side of the muffs from my right ear and made the unforgettably dumb
move of turning my back on him as he decided to shoot the last two
rounds in the box of 50. The watermelon sized flame from the muzzle
in the late dusk was impressive enough but the pain in my ears was
like red hot knitting needles but somehow i managed to avoid any
permanent hearing loss from that day; I had it tested soon thereafter
as a precaution and it was ok. Don't emulate my mistake please and
enjoy the gun.

 

[Tommy Kelly]

I had 1 of those but now mine's different. I am a 4 5/8" ruger nut and love them well ruger didn't see fit to make the carbine in 4 5/8" so I had mine cut to 4 5/8. I really like it now and will use it a lot more than when it had the 7.5". It's a sweet shooting little pistol.

 

[Snake45]

The .30 Carbine is a loud sucker due to the high velocity.

It's not the velocity. It's the pressure. Most .30 Carbine ammo is loaded to 40,000 psi, more or less, and is intended to be fired in 18" or so barrels, in which the report is quite mild for a centerfire rifle. Cut the barrel to 7.5" and you are venting the pressure MUCH higher in the curve. Gun blast is caused by pressure venting to atmospheric, and there's quite a bit of it venting in the 7.5" barrelled .30 Blackhawk.

 

[Snake45]

The
day I bought mine for the princely sum of $40 back in 1971 I wondered
why the original owner had traded in an apparently almost NIB gun and
my dealer didn't mark it higher considering its pristine condition.
Then I went to my local range with a friend and we shot it most of the
afternoon on and off UNTIL, in order to hear his voice I partially removed
one side of the muffs from my right ear and made the unforgettably dumb
move of turning my back on him as he decided to shoot the last two
rounds in the box of 50. The watermelon sized flame from the muzzle
in the late dusk was impressive enough but the pain in my ears was
like red hot knitting needles.

I have a somewhat similar story.

USAF Small Arms Instructor School, Lackland, 1972. The day we were scheduled to shoot the Ruger MK I match pistols for familiarization, one of our instructors, Sgt. Dobbins, showed up with a personally owned .30 Blackhawk and a Mason jar full of GI surplus ammo. For some reason he chose to stand right next to ME on the firing line. While we shot offhand at 25 yard paper targets, he plinked--one-handed, no less--at rocks on the 100 yard backstop. Every time he lit that beast off, the noise was tremendous, even through earmuffs (I developed a flinch from HIS gun!) and the muzzle would rise about 30 degrees, leaving a fireball (about football size, as you suggest) burning in the air where the muzzle was when the thing went off. Quite an impressive display and one that instantly and permanently cured me of ANY desire to ever own one. (Although I still think they're cool looking.)

 

[Rix86]

This is an exercise in ammo sharing (and a pretty severe yearning for a wheel gun).
an interesting note:
7.62x25 (.30 cal) ammunition is CHEAPER than buying jacketed heads.
an interesting IDEA:
re-chambering another cylinder for 7.62x25 so it would be dirt-cheap to shoot....



And I'm looking forward to the fireballs.



Next is a .44 mag or an old army. :twisted:

 

[jimbo1096]

A really neat firearm for the Ruger Family. I love shooting mine and would olny wish you had found one in the Old Model configuration. They are really sweet to shoot. I still haven't gotten around to reloading for it yet, got too much Wolf to shoot up first.

 

[Wild Bill '67]

That is one good looking 30 carbine. Please give us a range report and let us know if it lives up to its reputation.

 

[Quattroclick]

Brings back fond memories of shooting my dad's 30 carbine old model. I intend to have one again as soon as I find a nice old model for a decent price. Great fun at dusk with factory fodder.

 

[Rix86]

Range report:
got some oddball relaods that didn't group so well at 20 yards.
military surplus stuff grouped quite well, but I had a few jam in the cylinder. ( I haven't scrubbed it yet )

and people stop and look to see what the hell is going on when you fire it.
lol
the .30 and the cz52 make a pretty big lateral blast/shockwave.

 

[fp2000h]

The only thing I've found worse than BRD is wheel guns. I bought my first about a year ago; it was a Ruger Blackhawk Bisley in .45 COLT. Instant love. I ended up selling the Blackhawk but have since bought a GP100 and it's a great gun.

You've got a hell of a shooter there! .30 carbine?! Are you serious!?! Get yourself a lever action in the same caliber and you'll rule the frontier, man! Let us know how she shoots. I've always wondered about that particular configuration... :)

 

[Rix86]

OK, second range trip with this one....
Using military surplus stuff the first time, I would get a few shells in each cylinder that didn't want to come out.
So afterwards, I scrubbed it down real well, and notices a few small areas of almost pitting in a few chambers..
scrubbed, cleaned, oiled, etc.
Second time around, modern production ammo, it still does it, just to a lesser extent. So I'ma scrub it down even harder with a .32 brush and lots-o-hoppy's. Might end up having to buy a cylinder :(
let my dad shoot it and suddenly the ejector rod doesn't line up with the clylinder holes anymore. :x
Wondering if the rod got bent or turned or something.
Oh well.

And had 2 rounds that wouldn't fire, out of 4 clinders I shot through it. primer strikes looked good.
And one rouind had the primer not seated, so the cylinder wouldn't turn.

She will make 2 or 3 ragged holes with one full cylinder though :)

 

[Ale-8(1)]

After you clean and scrub that cylinder, make sure you get all the oil out of the chambers and leave them dry when you shoot. Sometimes that helps with sticky cases.

The ejector rod is tough to align on the .30 Carbine guns because the holes are so small. If you rotate the cylinder too far it likely won't line up and you can't back up to the hole. Try "fiddling with it" a little bit.

JMHO

:)

 

[Rix86]

I know about the ejector, thats not the problem, it just plain won't go into
the cylinder.

 

[Ale-8(1)]

All I can tell ya is that my .30 Blackhawk is VERY picky about the position of the cylinder when attempting to eject empty cases.

:)

 

[Cape Cod Terry]

Pop out the cylinder and see if the ejector rod is bent. It is easy to bend it if you have a sticky case and the cylinder isn't perfectly aligned. With the cylinder removed you can easily straighen it by hand. Certain batches and brands of ammo seem to be stickier than others, requiring anything from a hard push to a light tap on the ejector. Remember this is a rimless case being fired in a revolver. I put a new mainspring in mine and it solved 90% of my FTF's, remember this is a rifle primer. Great gun and a great cartridge. :D
Cape Cod Terry

 

[Rix86]

Pop out the cylinder and see if the ejector rod is bent. It is easy to bend it if you have a sticky case and the cylinder isn't perfectly aligned. With the cylinder removed you can easily straighen it by hand. Certain batches and brands of ammo seem to be stickier than others, requiring anything from a hard push to a light tap on the ejector. Remember this is a rimless case being fired in a revolver. I put a new mainspring in mine and it solved 90% of my FTF's, remember this is a rifle primer. Great gun and a great cartridge. :D
Cape Cod Terry

We're on the same page, same paragraph, same sentance. 8)

 

[Slanteyedshootist]

Fireballs? Fireballs! FIREBALLS!!! Oh, now I got to get me one!!!!

 

[wixedmords]

That's a fine speciman Rix86.

Congratulations on the acquisition. Looks like a keeper. ;)

I hope you work out the issues. Good luck.

 

[Pinecone]

Rix86, I have seen people at the range actually "beat" the ejector rod "head" with a hammer to get the fired case loose from the cylinder! This will "bend" the rod. Ask your dad about the "hammer"....................Dick :mrgreen:

 

[Rix86]

I hear ya.
he's a bit ham-fisted, no hammer needed.
I pulled the cylinder and used a small punch to pop the shells out :)

This revolver bug is dangerous.... I just got a nagant revolver too :P